[JoeSchem]

While wading through the whimsies, the puerilities and unintelligible jargon of this work, I laid it down often to ask myself how it could have been, that the world should have so long consented to give reputation to such nonsense as this?" --Thomas Jefferson

This may have been the hidden poison in Western civilization. In the West, conservative and traditionalist Christians have long held the notion that 'classical education' consists of sending their children to universities to learn Plato and Socrates. Then they're surprised when their children come home espousing socialism and homosexuality.

[cornelis]

Then they're surprised when their children come home espousing socialism and homosexuality.

Heck, you can do that with the Bible. Get wid' it, JoeSchem.

[Federalist 78]

Then they're surprised when their children come home espousing socialism and homosexuality.

Jefferson didn't need the Greeks for a solution to homosexuality.

Amendment VIII: Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Proportioning Crimes ...

Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.