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British Scientists Keep Up Hopes For Survival Of Mars Probe
Channelnewsasia.com ^ | 26 December 2003 | Agence France Presse

Posted on 12/26/2003 3:30:38 PM PST by johnny7

LONDON : British scientists kept hoping for the survival of the Beagle 2 Mars lander despite its silence since it arrived on the planet's surface early on Christmas Day.

"I'm not feeling too down yet," said Colin Pillinger, the scientist in charge of the lander project, part of the European Space Agency's first independent interplanetary mission. He said at least 13 attempts to get in touch with the lander had been programmed in coming days, including another try by the giant radio telescope at Jodrell Bank later Friday to pick up Beagle's call signal -- a nine-note tune composed by the British pop group Blur.

Despite being wrapped in protective balloons, the craft may have been knocked out by a hard landing. But scientists were optimistic that the problem was no more serious than an antenna misaligned or perhaps blocked by a stone. "You have to liken this to the early days of mobile phones," Pillinger said. "We've got one mobile phone, one mobile phone mast and one satellite, and we have to match these things up and it's not that easy."

Scientists said there was also a possiblity of getting information from the American Mars Odyssey space probe or perhaps eventually from the Beagle's mother craft, the Mars Express, which was successfully inserted into an equatorial orbit on Thursday. The Mars Express was scheduled to be shifted to a polar orbit on December 30 from which it will be able to cover the planet's entire surface with a variety of instruments to measure its climate and physical characteristics. Although those instruments were providing 90 percent of the mission's investigative resources, the loss of the Beagle 2, the most dramatic of the experiments, would be a serious disappointment to the British team that developed it.

The 33-kilogram (73-pound) lander is packed with instruments to analyse soil samples and attempt to answer the mystery of whether there is, or has been, life on Mars. The disc-shaped probe had been due to touch down at Isidis Planitia, a large, flat plain near the Martian equator that may once have been awash with water. Mars has been touted as a potential future home for Man, because it is not too far from the Sun and, some believe, may have abundant reserves of water below its surface. The seas that covered it billions of years ago have long boiled away into space or possibly receded below ground, but why this catastrophe happened is one of the many unresolved puzzles about the Red Planet. Mars is a notorious challenge for exploration, with powerful winds, a rock-strewn landscape and dust storms. Of the 11 landers that have previously been dispatched there since 1960, only three have ever succeeded in carrying out their mission. Mars Express will need until January 4, after completing a series of final orbital manoeuvres, before it can be in position to receive any signal from Beagle 2, if the probe has not been knocked out.

Despite the uncertainty surrounding the fate of Beagle 2, European Union officials were trumpeting the success of the overall mission. "The Mars Express project is a good illustration of what Europe can achieve, on this planet and beyond, if it works together," said the European Union's top research official, Philippe Busquin. "Even if not all parts of the mission have succeeded, we must still acknowledge its significance, and build upon the experience gained to ensure higher chances of succes in the future," he said in a statement from Brussels.

Two American mobile landers, Spirit and Opportunity, are due to arrive on Mars on January 4 and 24. - AFP


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: beagle2; mars
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Two American mobile landers, Spirit and Opportunity, are due to arrive on Mars on January 4 and 24.

Boy... you can tell how they hated to let this get in the article. I bet the cause of Beagle 2's failure has a Made in France label on it.

1 posted on 12/26/2003 3:30:38 PM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
I am keeping my fingers crossed. The Wright Brothers weren't successful on their first try either. In just 100 years I am amazed at how far flight has come.........
2 posted on 12/26/2003 3:33:13 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? ME NEITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: johnny7
There are several more communicstion attempts programmed into the lander for a few days, and then the lander will begin sending a morse-code SOS as long as it can. It's far from over, but the attempts aren't 24/7 anyway. All kind of low-key.
3 posted on 12/26/2003 3:34:17 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: johnny7
My bet is that the Martians don't speak French, in which case, the Beagle 2 isn't malfunctioning, it is just being arrogant.
4 posted on 12/26/2003 3:38:14 PM PST by fhayek
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To: johnny7
Well let's keep our fingers crossed - our landers have a much more demanding landing profile that the Beagle2. It is a little early to start crowing yet, particularly after the Polar Lander fiasco. If one of them makes it, however, I will be out in the streets shouting.
5 posted on 12/26/2003 3:38:58 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: johnny7
Fugettaboutit. The Martians grabbed it.
6 posted on 12/26/2003 3:41:49 PM PST by thesummerwind (In the white room with black curtains near the station.)
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To: fhayek
It;s a British lander, or so I thought. I think the Mars Express is mostly German. What I don't understand is why they keep doing things that we did years ago? Why can't they show some originality?
7 posted on 12/26/2003 3:42:15 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: johnny7
bet the cause of Beagle 2's failure has a Made in France label on it.

Need I remind you of a certain pair of rather embarrassing all-American Mars mission failures in the past few years?

I don't know what it is about Mars, but the success rate for Mars missions is remarkably low (see this link for a summary). The most recent failure was the Japanese Mars-B mission, last month. (That mission has the ignominious distinction of having failed twice...)

8 posted on 12/26/2003 3:43:58 PM PST by r9etb
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. I bet the cause of Beagle 2's failure has a Made in France label on it.

Well, to be fair, most Mars missions that have attempted to land on the surface have been failures.

9 posted on 12/26/2003 3:46:43 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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What I don't understand is why they keep doing things that we did years ago? Why can't they show some originality?

Why do we keep running the hundred meter dash in the Olympics?

10 posted on 12/26/2003 3:47:58 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: CasearianDaoist
Why can't they show some originality?

Any suggestions? Landing has been done. Orbiting has been done. Mixing metric and English measure has been done. What else could they do?

11 posted on 12/26/2003 3:50:56 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: johnny7
I just read in this book that if Earth were 5% closer to the sun, the oceans would evaporate, and if 15% father away, freeze, and that the Earth needs a large moon to keep it from oscillating with drastic climate changes (apparently the moon was created when something close to the size of Mars hit the Earth, and sprewed out about a quarter of its mass out into space, which condensed into the moon), and needs a molten core to have magnetic field to keep out the bad rays, and to create a planet with plate tectonics and topography so that it is not all underwater, and a big asteroid to hit it at a timely moment to wipe out the dinosaurs, so that large mammals could fill the niche, and well, aren't we darn lucky to be here to savor this mortal coil for our alloted time?
12 posted on 12/26/2003 3:53:59 PM PST by Torie
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Those Martians shot down another of our probes..... I guess SDI works.
13 posted on 12/26/2003 3:58:04 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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Beagle 2 on Mars: The ESA-Scientists imagined that the landing of their electronic snooper would have looked like this model drawing
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Beagle 2 on Mars: The ESA-Scientists imagined that the landing of their electronic snooper would have looked like this model drawing
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Beagle 2 should have landed on the red planet like this (Computer Simulation)
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Beagle 2 should have landed on the red planet like this (Computer Simulation)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

"Spiegel-Online"....Beagle 2 auf dem Mars zerdeppert?

AP   / ©  SPIEGEL ONLINE 2003

Longjack

14 posted on 12/26/2003 4:06:47 PM PST by longjack
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Beagle's call signal -- a nine-note tune composed by the British pop group Blur

Excerpt of another tune composed by British group Queen:

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust yeah

15 posted on 12/26/2003 4:12:40 PM PST by pa_dweller (Notice: Tagline temporarily out of service)
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FRIDAY, DECEMBER 26, 2003 -- 2355 GMT (6:55 p.m. EST -- Thus far this evening the Jodrell Bank radio observatory has not detected any signals from Beagle, project officials report.

From SpaceFlightNow.com's Mars Express site. The Beagle2 has gone tits up. I guess all the recent failures make the original Viking landers all the more impressive. Of course, you'd have to compare present-dollar costs of the Viking...

16 posted on 12/26/2003 4:15:47 PM PST by mikegi
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To: johnny7
They need to be patient.
17 posted on 12/26/2003 4:17:28 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: mikegi
compare present-dollar costs of the Viking

Let's see, 2 for $1 billion is $.5 billion per landing.

0 for $30 million is $ 'infinitely many' per landing. Well, that's arithmetic for you.

18 posted on 12/26/2003 4:19:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: RightWhale
"It's dead, Jim."


19 posted on 12/26/2003 4:27:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: r9etb; johnny7
So much could begin to be possible if only we could get beyond the monopolistic corruption that still pervades our space programs:


Related thread:
Did Astrium, an ESA-anointed monopolistic contractor, actually WANT its lean-budgeted Beagle 2 Mars mission to fail in order to secure greater funding for subsequent interplanetary missions funded by increasingly stimulated European taxpayers?
20 posted on 12/26/2003 4:31:15 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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