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Sniper's skills keep buddies alive
USA TODAY ^ | 12/26/03 | Matthew Cox

Posted on 12/26/2003 3:15:26 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: kattracks
From his own rooftop position, Davis tracked the man through the sight of his M-14 rifle.

OK, I am confused.

Who had the M-14 rifle, our guy or the Iraqi?

This sentence is so poorly written, I spent the rest of the article wondering why our snipers would be using a 40 year old weapon.

21 posted on 12/26/2003 6:11:40 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: TalBlack
The likes of George S. Patton spent their entire working lives in service to their country and preached effectivness in battle to the nth degree with out ever saying anything sick or pathological as you ascribe to those who were and are Men and who have secured for you your freedom.

I was not saying that sniping is not a valid tactic in warfare. Our troops must do whatever it takes.
22 posted on 12/26/2003 6:13:07 AM PST by LouisianaLobster
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
They aren't using 40 year old weapons...they are using new weapons with superior accuracy with a caliber and name that have been around for 40 years.

happydogx2
23 posted on 12/26/2003 6:25:25 AM PST by happydogx2 (Peace on Earth, Goodwill towards men....)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"Who had the M-14 rifle, our guy or the Iraqi?"

It may very well have been an M-14 rifle that Sgt Davis was using, but if so, it was most likely the match-grade sharpshooter version designated M-21.

24 posted on 12/26/2003 6:34:05 AM PST by Imal (Season greeting from Singapore-la.)
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To: Leisler
Civilians just don't understand.
25 posted on 12/26/2003 7:29:26 AM PST by tillacum (It takes a President and a Mighty Military with cajones to find Spider Hussein)
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To: Iris7
spotted his target: an armed Iraqi on a rooftop about 300 yards away.

Now that's gettng down-range!

.50-caliber XM-107 rifle

Cool, a .50 cal. radio-rifle!

26 posted on 12/26/2003 8:17:23 AM PST by budwiesest (Ain't making this up, read it on the internet.)
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To: kattracks; *bang_list
BANG TO THE TOP

GOOD HUNTING, MUST BE COOL HUNTING BEFORE SUNRISE AND AFTER SUNSET

HAPPY NEW YEAR
27 posted on 12/26/2003 8:40:26 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: sd-joe
Excellent response.

For Christmas I bought my husband the book *Marine Sniper-93 confirmed kills* by Charles Henderson. It's the story of Sgt Carlos Hathcock. He's on vacation for a week and looking forward to delving into it.

28 posted on 12/26/2003 10:45:42 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: martin_fierro
pwn3d!
29 posted on 12/26/2003 10:51:27 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: LouisianaLobster
Try Thinking he is not a wuss like you
30 posted on 12/26/2003 10:52:45 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer
Nah i'll just think "oh well, there are enough asswipes that the world needs to get rid of"
31 posted on 12/26/2003 11:22:41 AM PST by LouisianaLobster
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To: chookter
...you sound like a fellow Counter-Strike player...

Storm the Front!
32 posted on 12/26/2003 11:37:24 AM PST by Keith
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To: kattracks
"It's kind of a professional insult to get shot at by another sniper."

I guess it is!
33 posted on 12/26/2003 12:04:04 PM PST by jerri
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To: LouisianaLobster
I honestly don't know what i would think if my 12 year old kid would say 'when i grow up i want to shoot people through their heads'.

I do now what I think of a so-called adult who would invent those words and ascribe them to a 12-year-old.
Unless I missed it in the narrative? Help me out here.

34 posted on 12/26/2003 12:32:13 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Pharmboy
Even I could hit something with this baby...

From the article, On Dec. 20, he killed one sniper with a single shot from a .50-caliber XM-107 rifle from 750 yards away.

Yeah, something. But at 750 yards?
35 posted on 12/26/2003 12:38:47 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Imal
It may very well have been an M-14 rifle that Sgt Davis was using, but if so, it was most likely the match-grade sharpshooter version designated M-21.

M21 is a Vietnam era sniper system. What Davis has is a regular grade M14. A quantity of them have been supplied to the Stryker units for designated marksmen. The only modification is a rails system for mounting optics and other ancillary devices.

They were also given special training using a contract instructor who is an expert combat shot (and retired officer). Sgt Davis attended this training last year.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

36 posted on 12/26/2003 12:47:54 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Buffalo Head
RE:

" 7.62x51mm vs. 7.62x39mm. Skill and finesse vs. hate and bumbling..."

Bear in mind, some of these jihhadists are known to carry 7.62 X 54R in various configurations, including the "Druganov" sniper rifle, which seems to have earned a modicum of respect in Afghanistan.

Although an antique by today's standards, there are still a few of the old Russian Moisin-Nagant M-91/30s floating around, and they have been picking people off from Stalingrad to Vietnam quite effectively for over a Century now.

Our Troops in VN quickly developed a healthy respect for the old M/N in the hands of a competent enemy Rifleman.
Given the abundance of all sorts of odd old weaponry in the Middle-East, I would be surprised if some of the Islammonazis are not toting a few of them around yet.

Anyone attempting to "snipe" at anything beyond about 100 meters with an AK would be, IMHO, quite the optomist - and probably a rather stupid one at that!
37 posted on 12/26/2003 12:49:24 PM PST by Uncle Jaque ("We need a Revival; Not a Revolution;... a Committment; Not a New Constitution..." -S. GREEN)
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To: LouisianaLobster
I honestly don't know what i would think if my 12 year old kid would say 'when i grow up i want to shoot people through their heads'.

Military snipers generally go for shots to the center of the chest. Police snipers are the ones who try for headshots.

38 posted on 12/26/2003 12:53:03 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
It's a great book. I am sure your husband will enjoy it.
39 posted on 12/26/2003 1:00:02 PM PST by sd-joe (.)
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To: kattracks
Previous thread, army times version of same story, with photographs;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1046129/posts

Note the .50 weapon someone posted here is not the XM-107; the military weapon is a new version of the Barret semi-auto, not too different from the weapons Barrret has made for 20 years. It does give you a feeling of power to take the prone behind that thing. I've only shot it on the range. It's not unusually accurate.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
40 posted on 12/26/2003 1:00:15 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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