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1 posted on 12/25/2003 9:07:47 PM PST by knak
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To: knak
Bump/Ping!

WorldNetDaily obtained a copy of the report labeled "law enforcement sensitive." An earlier homeland security report, dated Nov. 21, said the terrorists have designed a "crude chemical dispersal device" fabricated from commonly available materials, which is designed to asphyxiate its victims, as WorldNetDaily first reported. The device can produce both cyanogen chloride gas and hydrogen cyanide gas, which gives off a bitter almond smell.

"These gases are most effective when released in confined spaces such as subways, buildings or other crowded indoor facilities," the closely held report said, adding that al-Qaida has shown a continued interest in targeting subways.

2 posted on 12/25/2003 9:10:47 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: knak
Maybe they should raise the alert status to red.
3 posted on 12/25/2003 9:11:43 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: knak
"Smells may range from fruity/flowery to sharp/pungent, garlic/horseradish-like, bitter almonds, peach kernels and new-mown grass/hay," according to the FBI advisory.

Obviously, by the time you smell this stuff, it is too late.

Long-term, it's not easy to see how we can defend against every possible variation of this sort of large-scale terror attack. The only thing which comes to my mind as any sort of an answer is that there needs to be some sort of a threat of overwhelming retalliation on the table which would register in the minds of the people involved. A couple of ICBMs pointed at Mecca and Medina might be a reasonable start...

4 posted on 12/25/2003 9:17:38 PM PST by greenwolf
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"Smells may range from fruity/flowery to sharp/pungent, garlic/horseradish-like, bitter almonds, peach kernels and new-mown grass/hay," according to the FBI advisory.

Well that about covers about half the smells out there in some way.
6 posted on 12/25/2003 9:20:44 PM PST by Husker24
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To: knak
I thought Hatfill was under surveillance.

What if we were attacked by WMD and couldn't find out who to retaliate against?

Oh I forgot, it already happened and we did nothing.

8 posted on 12/25/2003 9:24:57 PM PST by Rome2000 (Your right to "Jihad" ends when I have to take off my shoes)
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To: knak
A few years ago, those Japanese terrorists released Sarin in a subway and killed about 6 people. I've heard that causing widespread casualties with chemical agents isn't as easy as you'd think...
10 posted on 12/25/2003 9:27:40 PM PST by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: knak; snopercod
"the homeland"

That would be the United States of America.

Look at Air Force One; along the sides, it says, United States of America.

Not Homeland Airways.

13 posted on 12/25/2003 9:37:17 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: knak
The device can produce both cyanogen chloride gas and hydrogen cyanide gas, which gives off a bitter almond smell.

"These gases are most effective when released in confined spaces such as subways, buildings or other crowded indoor facilities," the closely held report said, adding that al-Qaida has shown a continued interest in targeting subways.

Geez, kinda like the stuff at Costco and Wal-Mart a while back...

14 posted on 12/25/2003 9:39:04 PM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: knak
"Smells may range from fruity/flowery to sharp/pungent, garlic/horseradish-like, bitter almonds, peach kernels and new-mown grass/hay," according to the FBI advisory.

IOW, everything except skunk and patchouli. And manure.

17 posted on 12/25/2003 10:10:47 PM PST by little jeremiah
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"Smells may range from fruity/flowery to sharp/pungent, garlic/horseradish-like, bitter almonds, peach kernels and new-mown grass/hay," according to the FBI advisory.

In other news, federal officials have issued an all-points bulletin for this woman:


18 posted on 12/25/2003 10:45:48 PM PST by Imal (Season greeting from Singapore-la.)
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What was the gas that Putin used in the hostage situation? What did that stuff smell like? It sure seemed effective in eliminating the problem, uh, and some of, uh, alot of the hostages.
29 posted on 12/26/2003 1:17:29 AM PST by Cate (Bush is da' man...)
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To: knak
hydrogen cyanide

Interesting how some of the 9/11 killers were from Delray Beach, Fl and how anthrax was used in the Globe building in Boca Raton about a mile from the Delray Beach border and that several years earlier, the Feds busted a group supplying cyanide to Iraq out of an office warehouse about a mile North East of the Globe building right on the border of Delray Beach and Boca Raton.

35 posted on 12/26/2003 4:04:25 PM PST by fso301
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"Smells may range from fruity/flowery to sharp/pungent, garlic/horseradish-like, bitter almonds, peach kernels and new-mown grass/hay," according to the FBI advisory." Smells like any subway car in NYC on any day of the week. How can anyone tell the difference!
38 posted on 12/26/2003 4:17:08 PM PST by Captain Culpepper
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To: knak
At the institute of "higher learning" that I work at, one of the Radiation Safety Officers
and I will talk about all the nasty stuff Al-Quida could do in terms of a
bio/chem/radioactive attack.

And we always end up trying to get our minds around one question:
As simple and lethal as some of these modes of attack are...why haven't they been used yet?

Which leads us to think there are two answers:
the intelligent Al-Quida operatives have followed the example of The Talented
Mohemmed Atta...but can't bring themselves to leave the strip joints and
downing double-scotchs...
OR
they are waiting until their most extreme situation becomes clear, then they'll
strike because they have nothing left to lose.
46 posted on 12/26/2003 8:20:23 PM PST by VOA
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To: Cindy
Ping
47 posted on 12/26/2003 8:21:36 PM PST by arasina
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To: knak
"Smells may range from fruity/flowery to sharp/pungent, garlic/horseradish-like, bitter almonds, peach kernels and new-mown grass/hay," according to the FBI advisory.

So the smell of smoked pork still means good things!!

49 posted on 12/26/2003 8:27:47 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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