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Time Trip - questions and answers (How widely accepted is the theory that we can travel in time?)
BBC ^ | Friday, December 26, 2003 | BBC

Posted on 12/25/2003 8:12:15 PM PST by Momaw Nadon

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To: Momaw Nadon
"Hawking proposed a Chronology Protection Conjecture which says that the laws of physics disallow time machines. Basically, such scientists argue that nature will conspire to prevent the building of a time machine - one possibility is that runaway surges in quantum energy would generate massive gravitational fields and turn any time machine into mush"

A sentient universse? Or G-d?
41 posted on 12/25/2003 10:13:58 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Ciexyz
Just whatever you do....DON'T play it BACKWARDS !

42 posted on 12/25/2003 10:15:34 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Is whitefish supposed to make a noise?" - Felix Muttly)
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To: I_dmc
The limits of reductionism, the analytic scalpel endlessly naming smaller parts.

Everything is a manifestation of energy, so in a holistic way there is no objectivity or otherness.
43 posted on 12/25/2003 10:16:17 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Momaw Nadon
(How widely accepted is the theory that we can travel in time?)

I time travel all the time--but just one way, and I keep up with the flow of traffic.
44 posted on 12/25/2003 10:16:59 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Koblenz
I think a better question might be: if time travel is possible, then why haven't we been visited from the future yet?

How can you be sure we haven't been visited? It's not like a time traveller would walk up to you and say "Hi, I'm from the future!" Society has a habbit of either laughing at or locking up and medicating people who do things like that.

45 posted on 12/25/2003 10:18:53 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: ffusco
The Squire of Gothos episode.

Great episode with General Trelane.

The one I'm thinking of is "The City On the Edge Of Forever" where Kirk falls in love with a pacifist.

46 posted on 12/25/2003 10:20:42 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I love vintage Trek!
47 posted on 12/25/2003 10:23:10 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: ffusco
The below is an example of that old high school saying, "The stars are matter. We are matter. It don't matter." Cute, but lame.

Everything is a manifestation of energy, so in a holistic way there is no objectivity or otherness.

Unless otherness doesn't depend on energy, in the same way that a scalpel and a retractor are both surgical steel but neither is the other and both are objectively different. A radio wave emitted by a star and a radio wave modulated by a radio station are both emitted radio waves but they are both objectively and subjectively different. It's their differences, not their similarities, that make the difference.
48 posted on 12/25/2003 10:25:16 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ffusco
I love vintage Trek!

Excellent show, never been anything like it before or since.

49 posted on 12/25/2003 10:26:21 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: WhatWouldReaganDo
I poste this reply yesterday.
50 posted on 12/25/2003 10:26:42 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: razorback-bert
Oops, I left the d back in time.
51 posted on 12/25/2003 10:28:09 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Re your list of 100 best albums:

Joy Division Unkown Pleasures
52 posted on 12/25/2003 10:31:52 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Yesterday is a figment of you're mind, tomorrow is too..
Carpe Diem..."Sieze the day"..
53 posted on 12/25/2003 10:34:04 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: ffusco
Joy Division Unkown Pleasures

Don't have that one but I'll look into it. I'm always in the market for good music.

54 posted on 12/25/2003 10:36:23 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: aruanan
Phililosophically speaking objectivity is a form of subjectivity.
55 posted on 12/25/2003 10:37:34 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Momaw Nadon
This article was already posted 300 years from now.
56 posted on 12/25/2003 10:38:42 PM PST by Imal (Season greeting from Singapore-la.)
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To: Ichneumon
With all the changes they'd inevitably make to the past, sooner or later someone is going to end up making a change that will alter January 1, 2004 enough that time travel *doesn't* get invented.

There are a lot of theories on time travel that gets around temporal paradox issues. None of them are complete, but they are based on our current understanding of quantum physics.

One theory is that traveling back in time would result in the traveler ending up in a parallel universe where everything appears to be the past, but is really the past in another universe that is very close to the one he left and when he returned, it would be back to his original universe. That way nothing he did in "the past" would effect his future.

Another theory is hard to get your mind around. That part of quantum theory is that cause and effect would get turned on it's head regarding time travel. According to some theorists, the laws of cause and effect would become reversed, so that your actions in the future would influence the your actions in the past. I've been trying to make sense of that one for a while. The problem is that we are corporial in nature. Our understanding of the universe is that there is a beginning, a middle and an end, in that order. For us to understand how space and time operate on a grand scale is like trying to explain three dimentional space to someone who only exists in a two dimensional world. All they can understand is right and left and would not be able to understand the concept of up and down.

57 posted on 12/25/2003 10:40:05 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: Momaw Nadon
O.K....Muttly have string and tomato.

Now what.
58 posted on 12/25/2003 10:42:02 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Is whitefish supposed to make a noise?" - Felix Muttly)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Edith Keeler played by Joan Collins.
You thought you were a nerd.
What was the name of Captian Pike's hores??
Now you are a NERD.
59 posted on 12/25/2003 10:52:25 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: calljack
As long as you don't know the combination to the safe in Kirk's quarters, there is still hope for you. ;)
60 posted on 12/25/2003 10:57:19 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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