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To: mercy
It's crazy to think we can just fence them out. Our economy needs their labor like we need oil from the ME. The situation as it now stands is ridiculous and immoral from every aspect.

Those who just hate illegals are irrational. We cannot function without them. If you think otherwise you are just completely uninformed. Go to the factories and jobsites and take a good long look. Step back in the kitchen of nearly every restaurant. Look at your gardener.
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You have fallen for the outright lies advanced by the pro-criminal leftists and one world anti-sovereignty elitists. The jobs you name were all being done before the 12 million criminals came here and took them away from Americans.

By artificially inflating the labor pool, some people get cheap labor but the society subsidizes them in several ways. First the general population is forced to provide social services to the displaced workers who used to do those jobs. Blacks and poor whites are the hardest hit, and the welfare rolls increase as the criminals displace them.

Secondly, the general population pays for social services for the criminals who are not willing to pay their own way. We provide them with healthcare, admission to government schools, translation services because they are too lazy to even learn English, police and fire protection etc. All this cost money and is paid by citizens and legal residents.

Thirdly, these criminals bring third world diseases into the country that legal immigrants do not bring, because people with these diseases are excluded from entering the country legally. The whole society pays as these diseases are spread from the criminals to the unsuspecting non-criminal population.

Fourthly, we pay because these criminals commit other crimes as well as immigration crimes. Criminal aliens commit non-immigration crimes at roughly twice the rate as natives and three times the rate of non-criminal immigrants. This is a tremendous drain on society.

We also pay as respect for the rule of law degenerates. Poor, young, blacks, whites, and other natives displaced by criminals, turn to crime to supplement their meager income from government handouts. They see criminals taking the jobs that provided a living for their parents and grandparents and see no reason why they should obey the law when aliens break it with no consequence.

The criminal aliens also vote for bigger government, socialism and special privileges for themselves. They vote against conservatives and replace them with far left socialists as they did in Orange county CA. Bob Dornan was voted out of office by criminal aliens and replaced with a leftist who supports the criminals.

We need our elected and appointed officials to do their jobs, like they swear to do, and enforce the laws. Prosecute the criminal aliens as well as the people who illegally hire them, prosecute those who harbor them, and prosecute those who conspire to aid them in their criminal activity. The “Justice” Department should also use the RICCO laws to confiscate the possessions of the criminals who profit from hiring criminal aliens.

RICCO forfeiture laws should be used to confiscate Tyson Foods, Inc’s and Wal-Mart, Inc’s assets. They should also be used to confiscate the homes, bank accounts, etc., of smaller businesses and homeowners who hire the criminals to work around the house.

Two or three cases where companies and individuals lose everything because they hire criminal aliens and people would stop doing it. Then all we have to do is cut off social services for the criminal aliens and the problem would be solved. If they can’t get social services and can’t work they will go home in a hurry.

The U.S. isn’t supposed to be a cesspool where countries dump their criminals. It’s a privilege to come here, or at least it used to be. We should only accept the best, the brightest and the most law-abiding applicants. Criminals need to stay out.
71 posted on 12/25/2003 1:27:02 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
You are silly. Why don't we just shut down the country?

Your position is tatamount to believing the earth should be flat because round is inconveinient. Or the USA was founded on Christian values by mostly Christians so we should Christianize the Constitution and government.

Yes those are impossible and stupid scenarios but no moreso than your whole scenario as you posted.

All it takes is the national will do do something. My idea is foolproof IDs. Hell, put a chip in their asses I don't care. AND tough penalties for those who hire non ID bearing workers. AND jailing illegals once the ID system is in place.

No more free healthcare. No voting by non-citezens. No more dragging in all your cousins and living in two rooms. No more criminal because criminals could not get the ID.

Fer God's sake Bush wants to fix this GD awful system. I don't hear any ideas form anyone else. Let's help him.
79 posted on 12/25/2003 1:40:22 PM PST by mercy
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To: SUSSA
It's RICO, not RICCO. Otherwise, I completely agree with everything you said. Well put!
81 posted on 12/25/2003 1:42:17 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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