[elli1]

How did we become the greatest industrial nation on earth before all those wonderful illegals came here?

To start with, the United States is an immigrant nation. Immigrants have built virtually everything post-contact. At the heart of every expansion you will find waves of immigration. Without immigrant labor, we would not have become ''the greatest industrial nation on earth''. The Chinese & Irish built the railroads, the Germans & Poles were at the heart of the beer, construction, packing, agriculture, machine & foundry industries in the upper middle west. Germans were also a significant presence in agriculture & ranching in Texas. During the potato famine (1845), approx. 2 million Irish came to the US & formed a huge pool of unskilled labor & filled many menial labor jobs across a multitude of industries--railroads & garment industry, notably. Scandinavians settled in the upper Mid-west and expanded the agriculture & fishing industries. Italians were a major force in fruit, wine & contruction. And each group in their turn was met w/ the same sort of derision that is currently being heaped upon Hispanics. But the simple & undeniable fact is that this nation would not be the force it is today w/o the tremendous fuel of expansion that the immigrant has provided.

[raybbr]

Thanks for spouting the liberal line to me. There is a difference. You failed to note that we are a nation of legal immigrants.

I am sure that you have read of the burden that these people put on our society, not to mention the fact that they are forcing us to change our societal ways. I say there is a limit and we have surpassed it. It is time to take back control of our society or we will be overun like a wounded animal in the forest that is consumed by the forest's scavengers.

[txdoda]

(1)To start with, the United States is an immigrant nation. >>>

(2)And each group in their turn was met w/ the same sort of derision that is currently being heaped upon Hispanics. But the simple & undeniable fact is that this nation would not be the force it is today w/o the tremendous fuel of expansion that the immigrant has provided.>>>>>>>

(1)Well all know the story about being an 'immigrant nation', but some of you always *forget* over the last 40 sum years, we have also became a WELFARE STATE. MY Germans ancestors DID NOT have everything *translated* for them @ a cost to the U.S citizens. No *free medical* & all the other *perks* ILLEGALS receive today.

(2)Someone posted Ted Kennedy speech when he first started cramming more immigration on us. Part of it said, "that NO one segment of immigrants would become so large, that they would change OUR country from the melting pot it had ALWAYS been". Now if the *mass* of hispanics has NOT changed your everyday life, your town, and your schools, you must be living on Mars. Since many hispanics have refused to assimilate (learn English)we now have others demanding everything in their own language also.
I read somewhere that (BROKE) LA county spends 1-2 million more on elections for ballots in 8 languages. Even the immigrants that can now vote, won't learn ENGLISH.
If the illegals are so good for our economy, why is CA going bankrupt???According to you their streets should be paved with gold.

Mexico comes HERE & issues their I.D. to illegals, now other countries are lining up to do the same for their own illegals. Ya, think every country should be able to come here & issue *legal* I.D.'s to their ILLEGALS ???