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Iraqi Officers: Al Qaida Operatives Were Trained Near Baghdad (911 Training/Rehearsals)
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| 25 Dec 03
| Geostrategy Direct
Posted on 12/25/2003 1:47:35 AM PST by 11B3
Iraqi Officers: Al Qaida Operatives Were Trained For War Near Baghdad (Trained For 911 By Iraq - Take That Rats!!)
Saudi nationals helped Saddam Hussein recruit and finance Al Qaida insurgents as part of preparations to confront U.S. troops in Iraq.
Iraqi officers who have been interrogated by the United States and coalition officials reported the Saudi role in recruiting and training of Al Qaida units in Iraq. The officers said Saddam, through Saudi contacts, had invited Al Qaida insurgents to form suicide and other units to stop the U.S. military in March.
Saddam's contacts with Al Qaida, the officers told interrogators, preceded the group's Sept. 11, 2001 strikes on New York and Washington. They said Saudi envoys arranged for Al Qaida insurgents to enter Iraq and begin training in camps around Baghdad.
The Al Qaida insurgents were trained at two camps Nahrawan and Salman Pak under the supervision of the Fedayeen Saddam.
One officer who completed his interrogation was allowed to reveal details of the Saudi role in Al Qaida's operations in Iraq. The officer, identified as "L," told the independent Iraqi weekly Al Yawm Al Aakher that he saw Al Qaida members arrive in Iraq as early as July 2001 for what he described as a secret mission.
"L" said 100 trainees arrived, many of them from Saudi Arabia, led by a cleric named Mohammed. The officer said the Saudi cleric, himself a skilled fighter, remained in Iraq for the war against the United States.
Officers said the Salman Pak training included ways to hijack airplanes. Training was conducted under the supervision of an unidentified Iraqi general who is currently a police commander. They said many of the Al Qaida insurgents left Iraq after their training stint.
Most of the Al Qaida insurgents, however, returned on the eve of the war to fight the United States. The officers said the Al Qaida members volunteered and fought in the battle for Baghdad.
The officers' testimony disputed assertions by Western intelligence agencies that the United States failed to establish a link between Al Qaida and Iraq before Sept. 11, 2001. The CIA was said to have disputed a Czech intelligence report of a meeting between Mohammed Atta, who led the suicide hijackers, and a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abunidal; alqaedaandiraq; iraq; iraqalqaeda; iraqandalqaeda; iraqiofficers; ratseatcrow; saddam; salmanpak; trainingcamps
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I very seldom post to 'Breaking News', but if this reaches the mainstream news it will put one huge hole in the Rats delusions. Daschle should be put on a suicide watch, and it will be interesting to see how the Rats try to spin this news.
We all knew that the battle in Iraq was directly related to the larger WOT, now we're getting some proof.
Merry Christmas.
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posted on
12/25/2003 1:47:37 AM PST
by
11B3
To: 11B3
Without a registration to Geostrategy Direct, could you tell me a bit more about them?
Interesting and Merry Christmas!
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posted on
12/25/2003 1:58:02 AM PST
by
leadpenny
To: 11B3
Training was conducted under the supervision of an unidentified Iraqi general who is currently a police commander. If we know this, why has this clymer been placed in a position of authority?
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posted on
12/25/2003 1:59:56 AM PST
by
Young Rhino
(http://www.artofdivorce.com)
To: 11B3; JustPiper
Bump/Ping
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:00:59 AM PST
by
Pro-Bush
(Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
To: 11B3
I am glad you posted the full article and that you posted it in Breaking News. I hope the Admin Moderator will leave it there. I posted the excerpt available to non-subscribers, but this is important information, which needs to get out.
Comment #6 Removed by Moderator
To: 11B3
Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility at Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.
Salman Pak, located 30-40 km SE of Baghdad, engaged in laboratory scale research on Anthrax, Botulinum toxin, Clostridium, perfringens (gas gangrene), mycotoxins, aflatoxins, and Ricin. Researchers at this site carried out toxicity evaluations of these agents and examined their growth characteristics and survivability.
Iraq told UN inspectors that Salman Pak was an anti-terror training camp for Iraqi special forces. However, two defectors from Iraqi intelligence stated that they had worked for several years at the secret Iraqi government camp, which had trained Islamic terrorists in rotations of five or six months since 1995. Training activities including simulated hijackings carried out in an airplane fuselage [said to be a Boeing 707] at the camp. The camp is divided into distinct sections. On one side of the camp young, Iraqis who were members of Fedayeen Saddam are trained in espionage, assassination techniques and sabotage. The Islamic militants trained on the other side of the camp, in an area separated by a small lake, trees and barbed wire. The militants reportedly spent time training, usually in groups of five or six, around the fuselage of the airplane. There were rarely more than 40 or 50 Islamic radicals in the camp at one time.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/salman_pak.htm
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:22:35 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: leadpenny
April 3, 2003, 2:40 p.m.
The 9/11 Connection
What Salman Pak could reveal.
Not far from Baghdad, Coalition forces may uncover evidence linking Saddam Hussein's regime with airline hijackings in general and the September 11 attacks in particular.
Salman Pak, a training camp on the Tigris River some 15 miles southeast of Iraq's capital, could clarify this question. According to Iraqi defectors and U.S. intelligence analysts, this is where Hussein's agents polished the air-piracy skills of foreign Islamist terrorists.
Details on this facility and its al Qaeda ties recently emerged in a Manhattan federal courtroom. Former CIA Director James Woolsey and Iraq scholar Laurie Mylroie offered sworn expert testimony in a largely overlooked lawsuit filed by the families of two people killed on 9/11. They are suing Iraq's government, among other rogue entities and individuals, for allegedly helping to murder their loved ones.
"I believe it is definitely more likely than not that some degree of common effort in the sense of aiding or abetting or conspiracy was involved here between Iraq and the al Qaeda," Woolsey said on March 3. President Clinton's CIA chief from 1993 to 1995 added: "Even if one cannot show that...any of the individual 19 hijackers were trained at Salman Pak, the nature of the training and the circumstances suggest, to my mind, at least, some kind of common aiding, abetting, assistance, cooperation whatever word you might want to take."
Mylroie, a Pentagon terrorism consultant and Iraq-policy adviser to Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign (and author of The War Against America), also testified March 3. She believes "It took a state like Iraq to carry out an attack as really sophisticated, massive and deadly as what happened on September 11."
Top Iraqi defectors amplify these American suspicions.
"There have been several confirmed sightings of Islamic fundamentalists from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Gulf states being trained in terror tactics at the Iraqi intelligence camp at Salman Pak," Khidir Hamza, Iraq's former nuclear-weapons chief, told the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee last July 31. "The training involved assassination, explosions and hijacking."
"This camp is specialized in exporting terrorism to the whole world," former Iraqi army captain Sabah Khodada told PBS's Frontline in an October 14, 2001 interview. Khodada worked at Salman Pak. He said that instruction there was "all for the general concept of hitting and attacking American targets and American interests." He added: "We saw people getting trained to hijack airplanes...They are even trained how to use utensils for food, like forks and knives provided in the plane...They are trained how to plant horror within the passengers by doing such actions." A map of the camp Khodada drew for Frontline closely matches satellite photos of the base, thus bolstering his story.
"I was the security officer in charge of the unit," at Salman Pak, an ex-Iraqi lieutenant general told Frontline anonymously in a November 6, 2001 interview. "This unit was under the direct supervision and control of the Iraqi Intelligence Service," he added. "And the fact that the training was concentrated on a plane made it even stranger as far as I was concerned."
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:Kc1Ci-FCgbAJ:www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040303.asp+Salman+Pak&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:26:09 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: 11B3
Also, according to the State Department's "Patterns of Global Terrorism 2001,"released May 21, 2002, "Iraq was the only Arab-Muslim country that did not condemn the September 11 attacks against the United States." That day, an official Iraqi broadcast said America was "...reaping the fruits of [its] crimes against humanity."
http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:28:29 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: 11B3
Salman Pak - Iraqs own terrorist training camp
Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. General and a Captain Sabah Khodada recently gave details of an Iraqi school at Salman Pak which includes training for the hijacking of passenger airliners and other modes of transportation. The former Iraqi General said that there was a old Boeing 707 resting next to rail tracks on edge of Salman Pak being used in terrorist training, the existence of this aircraft has been confirmed by UN. Inspectors.
The General, who had been the Security Officer in charge of the camp also reported that there were mixed nationality units including Saudis, Egyptians and Chechens at Salman Pak. Usually about 40 strong, these terrorist units received upto five months of intensive training. However the terrorist units were actually under the control of Iraqs Al- Mukhabarat Intelligence Service and in particular a section called the Division of Special Operations. Much of this was also confirmed by Captain Khodada.
The foreign fighters were segregated from Iraqi military personnel and Saddam Husseins own Fedayeen, except during certain specific training sessions. The overall training program included assassination, kidnapping, sabotage or hijacking of aircraft, buses, trains, sabotage of public utilities and most importantly of all, in the use of Chemical, Biological and possibly crude nuclear devices.
However, the training also included how to prepare and carry out suicide attacks and involved how to get access to the flight cabin, getting weapons on board, security weakness, terrorizing the passengers and crew. Captain Khodada stated " Those Arabs are real volunteers. They come in small numbers, and they come with the intention to do some real suicidal operations. "
" It has been said openly in the (Iraqi)media and even to us, from the highest command, that the purpose of establishing of establishing Saddams Fedayeen Fighters is to attack American targets and American interests. This is known. There is no doubt about it. All this training is directed towards attacking American targets, and American interests."
Khodada added "The training does not only include hijacking of planes and sabotage, some of the people were trained to do parachuting. Some other areas were training on how to penetrate enemy lines and get information from behind enemy lines. But its all for the general concept of hitting and attacking American targets and American interests. "
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:RRQAJkbBLJUJ:www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/826.html+Salman+Pak&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:31:33 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: leadpenny
So far I am unimpressed with them. It's a newbie compared to even Debka, which I had the amusement of seeing sprout up.
GeostrategyDirect was only registered as of Dec 12, 2002 with a registrant addy of Lake Forest, California. In other words, it's a post 911 site.
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:32:50 AM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: leadpenny
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:33:37 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: FairOpinion; All
I did a quick search and didn't find it, and yes - this needs to get out there. If there ever was a smoking gun, I'd say this qualifies.
As for why this former official was hired into the police is beyond me, except maybe he is one of those security leaks they've been talking about.
Geostrategy Direct is compiled by Bill Gertz - whose reputation in the intelligence world is quite good. Nothing is put on that site without several verifications. It's the only news I pay for, and have found the subscription well worth the money.
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:36:48 AM PST
by
11B3
(Liberalism is merely another form of mental retardation.)
To: kcvl
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:41:41 AM PST
by
angkor
To: piasa
Wonder why it had so many subscribers for several years before that?
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:45:12 AM PST
by
AmericanVictory
(If Arnold is the governater, Howard is the governatter)
To: leadpenny
Here is what I have found, Bill Gertz of the Washington Times seems to be a main player, they are a subsidiary of WorldTribune.com:
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:45:15 AM PST
by
KMAJ2
(Freedom not defended is freedom relinquished, liberty not fought for is liberty lost.)
To: 11B3; kcvl
Thanks. I was searching via Yahoo! and found out some of the same stuff. Bill Gertz has a good reputation at the Pentagon and Langley, I believe.
To: KMAJ2
You've been busy. Thanks.
To: leadpenny
They appear to use a postal drop addy along with delightful web sites offering such items as holistic care products, some pills to make you , er, frisky; also an obscure political lobbyist group or two, and a selection of incredible work at home opportunities where you can earn $50,000 to $75,000 annually. Whee buddy, there's some a whiff of legitimacy about this....
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:50:34 AM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: AmericanVictory
I don't know that they did. Maybe they had an email news list for a while, or are just pulling our leg.
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:51:34 AM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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