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To: Michael81Dus
Surely the Berlin wall fell accidently.

No sane person would say something like that. Historical events do not just fall out of the sky. To disconnect the event from the causes leading up to it is- it's mad, is what it is.

You are looking at the event from an extremely narrow perspective. The event itself lasted decades. It was not a thing that just suddenly happened one day. It took years and years of effort to bring that Wall down. There is no way in Hell that it just fell down one day.

This is delusional on your part. No, of course, we didn't know the exact day it was going to come down, but to bring down the Wall was a planned event.

Ronald Reagan... It´s just that he isn´t one of the most important characters of the cold wars end.

Michael- I won't discuss whether the world is flat or round. For you to say something like this draws your intelligence and sanity into question. End of discussion. You don't have any clue what you're talking about if you're going to say something like that. I mean this earnestly- if you say something like that, you are just as nuts as those other posters who are claiming that Germany is currently run by National Socialists. It's insane. It's like saying the atomic bombs weren't directly related to the Japanese surrender or that our Island Hopping campaign didn't lead up to that event. It's just that simple. I am absolutely certain that if you were to sit down and talk to the former President Bush, he would explain to you just how important Reagan was.

78 posted on 12/28/2003 12:05:18 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son; americanbychoice
You both and I, we disagree on one important point:
I believe that the fall of the Communist Empire could not been planned, I think it was lots of luck that made it possible. I´m covinced that it could have came not that way, that the Reds had used their weapons against their people!

You both believe that it was a matter-of-course that the wall fell down and with it the whole system of oppression and common property.

If you were right, it´s clear that Reagan is the man responsible for it all. If I were right, the trio would gain most of the credit for this achievement.

I agree, M., it makes no sense to talk about it anymore. For me, the disagreement is clear and I have no questions left.

Though it would have been nice not to be called "insane", etc... I wish you a great start in the week,

Michael
80 posted on 12/29/2003 1:58:35 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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