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End of French-Dominated Europe in Sight?
Forbes ^ | December 24, 2003 | Paul Johnson

Posted on 12/24/2003 8:00:21 PM PST by Shermy

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1 posted on 12/24/2003 8:00:21 PM PST by Shermy
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To: knighthawk; Eurotwit; Grampa Dave; okie01; aristeides; Cicero; Tacis; gaspar
Merry Christmas!
2 posted on 12/24/2003 8:01:11 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
And a very Merry Christmas to you, too, oh Prescient One.
3 posted on 12/24/2003 8:11:08 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Shermy
"if, as I predict, a split opens between France and Germany"

Anybody can predict it. You don't have to be prescient; just take a peek at history.

4 posted on 12/24/2003 8:23:51 PM PST by Savage Beast (Chirac is a clown.)
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To: Shermy
Sounds good to me!
5 posted on 12/24/2003 8:32:13 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Shermy
Really good post.

Merry Christmas on ya!
6 posted on 12/24/2003 8:32:42 PM PST by Burn24
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To: Burn24
Looks like 2004 will be a good year...only remainds to send the UN back to Europe
7 posted on 12/24/2003 8:38:40 PM PST by spokeshave (TDIDS = The Dow is Driving Skyward = Tom Daschle is Deeply Saddened)
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To: Shermy
Paul Johnson...
There is probably no greater intellect nor gift of writing in all of Europe.

He writes with the clarity and courage of Churchill.

Read his masterpiece, A History of the American People. Possibly the best since de Tocqueville.
8 posted on 12/24/2003 8:44:30 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: Shermy
U.S. policy could persuade Germany to become again, as it was in the days of Konrad Adenauer and Willy Brandt, a reliable American ally.

Paul Johnson is a famous author, and I do share his feelings toward France, but Willy Brandt just cannot be attached to Konrad Adenauer by the means of simple "and".

Politically, the two were whole universe apart.

Johnson should remember the Ostpolitik of Brandt The Marxist (and the President of the Socialist International!), as well as his role of the founding father of so called 'third worldism'. The latter trend appeared when, by the words of Roger Scruton, "the toiling proletarian of the European city gave way to the sun-drenched tribesman of the African bush as the preferred recipient of left-wing condescension".

Some quotes from Roger Scruton's brilliant work Thinkers of The New Left:

Willy Brandt did more than any other post-war politician to weaken the strategic position of Western Europe... The Brandt Report is perhaps the most turgid and ill-considered document ever to have achieved the status of a radical manifesto. Nevertheless, its authority is now unquestioned in radical circles...

(The Brandt Report) presents the important facts upon which 'third worldism' is founded...(unquote)

I say, down with Willy Brandt, as well as with the French Muslims as allies! With such allies one doesn't need no enemies...

9 posted on 12/24/2003 9:13:45 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Shermy
2004 looks better and better with good news like this.
10 posted on 12/24/2003 9:39:30 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (...And second prize goes to Kenny, for his Edward James Olmos impersonation!)
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To: Shermy
What a neat prospect.

France and the adage "what goes around comes around."
11 posted on 12/24/2003 10:30:48 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: Shermy
Merry Christmas!

Two very important points about the overvalued Euro are sort of hidden in this article:

1. American policymakers should now proceed on the long-term assumption that a European superstate, with a common foreign and military policy, is not going to emerge. The collapse of the constitution conference and talk of a "two-tier" EU means unity has been abandoned. The joint decision of the French and German governments to destroy the stability pact that underpins the common currency must, in the end, mean the destruction of the euro as well.

The Germans are feeling the pain of a stagnant economy, an overvalued euro, actual recession in many sectors and a dramatic collapse in East German property values. A number of German banks are technically insolvent, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to borrow the money necessary to keep German industry up to date. Given these circumstances, Germany's funding of the EU makes no sense to the German taxpayers or to the politicians who represent them. Now that Germany has blatantly broken the rules over the stability pact, what is to prevent it from reneging on EU payments? Nothing.

2. The Euro is way over valued with the socialist countries like France And Germany playing games with what is supposedly allowed re debt. Soros is probably still propping/pumping it up.

That will bring down the Euro house of shaky cards will be the upcoming regime change in Iran. Soros got the Murdering Mullahs to drop the dollar and the payment medium for its oil. Iran will revert to the $ within thirty days after a regime change happens in Iran.

Then the Euro will collapse.

12 posted on 12/24/2003 10:31:42 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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Cheers to President Bush who had the foresight and political will to devalue the US Dollar as an instrument of US Economic and Political policy against those in the WTO (opps, met France and Germany) who politically ran election campaigns in 2002 (along with South Korea) that focued on disparging the US and President Bush personally. Imports have been hurt from Europe and Exports on the rise, however, in the EUrozone prices do not drop to reflect competition or new sources of competing products - therefore the overvaluation of the EUro currency. Forcing a political change in EUrope is possible thorugh the very economic and political policy implemented by President Bush against Schroeder and Chiraq!
13 posted on 12/25/2003 12:04:39 AM PST by Jumper
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To: Grampa Dave
Does soros have a "business" we could avoid? Basically watever he touches is a business to be avoided.

On a lighter note, which countries would like to become states of the USA?
14 posted on 12/25/2003 12:23:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
On a lighter note, which countries would like to become states of the USA?

I would guess the majority of former Warsaw Pact nations would love the chance. ;^)

15 posted on 12/25/2003 12:32:07 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (...And second prize goes to Kenny, for his Edward James Olmos impersonation!)
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To: Jumper
"Forcing a political change in EUrope is possible thorugh the very economic and political policy implemented by President Bush against Schroeder and Chiraq!"

Damn, that stupid cowboy strikes again! :)

16 posted on 12/25/2003 2:32:43 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: Shermy
Meer Christmasto you too!
17 posted on 12/25/2003 3:29:29 AM PST by knighthawk (Live today, there is no time to lose, because when tomorrow comes it's all just yesterday's blues)
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To: Shermy
Merry Christmas! I just got Paul Johnson's new book, his Art: A New History.
18 posted on 12/25/2003 4:35:29 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Neophyte
Isolate the French by watching the EU crumble on its own, then pick up the pieces with Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain and eastern european nations such as Poland who are eager for US friendship.

19 posted on 12/25/2003 5:04:03 AM PST by WildWeasel
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To: Shermy
This is a very good article. It summed up in a very concise way what is about to happen. It should come in handy as a reference. Thanks for posting this.
20 posted on 12/25/2003 5:56:34 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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