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To: seamole
Buddy, I'm not interested in debating this with you.
It's Phil, not Buddy. Many folks aren't interested in debating this with me or anyone else. In fact, many aren't interested in debate at all.
I don't want your facts and figures.
They're not my facts at all, they're the government's facts.
You pinged me claiming that the news article was false.
BZZZT...What I said was "This reporting is pure BS!" meaning that this is nothing more than more propaganda being funneled to the American public.
See..."Agitprop, pure and simple!"
It isn't.
Oh, I don't doubt the results that were obtained, I doubt the veracity of "the claim" of the report in general.
Do you actually believe that kids wouldn't and don't lie on these dumbassed surveys! Only a foolish person would believe that the kids all answered the surveys truthfully.
Did you answer the surveys truthfully when you were given them in school?
Let's leave it at that.
You're leaving it at that, I won't miss you.
Have a nice holiday.
Merry Christmas to you also.
59 posted on 12/24/2003 3:31:01 PM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36; seamole
seamole is correct. This article referred to the Monitoring the Future study, none other.

MTF has been in existence since 1991, and there have been no changes in their methodology.

Your attempt to cloud the issue by throwing in other surveys, including PRIDE, is duly noted.

85 posted on 12/27/2003 7:40:39 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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