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To: TalBlack
Why would a man who is a man allow his hard won judgement be dismissed, AND in a life threatening situation no less? Ah, but there, I've answered my own question!

I think I stated the conclusion poorly- from the examples that were shown, the situation was often ambiguous- i.e. the co-pilot didn't look up, see the plane approaching a mountain, mention it to the pilot (reading a magazine at the time) get brushed off... and leave it alone.

From what I saw, it was more a case of conflicting interpretations of information...with the junior officer acceding to a more experienced, and often respected senior officer- the Tenerife disaster in the canary islands was the fault of the guy who ran KLMs safety program, and was a legend w/in his community. His junior officer acceded to his judgement, and he and a bunch (~500) of other people were killed.

I have no idea if this sort of this is inovlved in the sub incidents- it sounds as though multiple people had to have blundered- but I don't know. I'd be interested in BNG or other submariners thoughts/opinions.

41 posted on 12/23/2003 5:05:53 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: fourdeuce82d
The KLM disaster was horrible for USAF medics. We were shipped on a DC-9 to Dover to prep the 400+ bodies that were from that accident. It was in early 1977.
46 posted on 12/23/2003 5:11:44 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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