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The first discussion of this incident (Early November >100 posts) concerning the USS Hartford had been pulled. It seems there was too much sensitive information posted and objected to by sensitive Navy personnel. The posts on 12/16/03 alluded to the cover up the Navy was using to understate the damage that had occurred to the submarine. The US is lucky this sub didn't sink and contaminate the Mediterranean with nuclear material and result in casualties. The Italian PM would not have been so upset had he not known how bad the situation was originally; the submarine took a month to limp back to the US and cannot submerge; the submarine shudders when the propeller is moving; and lastly, look at how many were relieved of command and punished. We are looking at a $3 Billion wreck because someone was showing what the sub could do full speed so near the coast when it was not necessary.