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Hmong can seek entry into U.S.
Sac Bee ^ | 12/23/03 | Michael Doyle

Posted on 12/23/2003 10:02:42 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:02:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Kozak
We did the same to the Vietnamese, the Cambodians, and Laotians.

The Cambodians and Laotians were, for the most part, never our allies. They just hosted the NVA and Viet Cong and were the site of fighting. (I don't count as allies those who were in it for the money.)

To some extent, the same can be said of most South Vietnamese. Many of them did not actively side with the Americans, and of those who did, many were motivated by money rather than ideology.

We owe certain obligations to our allies, most of which have already been honored.

41 posted on 10/13/2004 7:48:09 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Wow. So the South Vietnamese who did the VAST majority of the bleeding and dying, you just blow them off huh? But we seem to owe an endless debt to the Hmong, most of the immigrants at this point not even having been alive during the war.

Personally, I think we payed all those debts long long ago, with 50,000 names on a wall, many more permanantely maimed, the billions in treasure, and the near destruction of our own Democracy ( which in case you havn't noticed continues apace in this particular election). No other country in history has paid so much to so few for so little.


42 posted on 10/13/2004 10:22:05 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

There are Hmong among us.


43 posted on 10/13/2004 10:29:17 AM PDT by rabidralph (Take responsibility for your life. Vote Republican)
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To: PAR35
Just like we did the Poles after WWII

And the Czechs, and the Slovaks, and the Hungarians, and The Slovenians, and the Croats...

. . . and the Estonians, and the Latvians, and the Lithuanians . . .

44 posted on 10/13/2004 10:32:05 AM PDT by drungus
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. . . and the Estonians, and the Latvians, and the Lithuanians . . .

Much smaller numbers for them - they were never liberated. They went from Soviet occupation to Nazi occupation back to Soviet occupation.

45 posted on 10/13/2004 12:13:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Kozak
I think we payed all those debts long long ago, with 50,000 names on a wall, many more permanantely maimed, the billions in treasure, and the near destruction of our own Democracy

Blame for that belongs on LBJ, McNamara and the rest of the corrupt democrats of that era. (And it is paid, not payed.)

So the South Vietnamese who did the VAST majority of the bleeding and dying, you just blow them off huh?

Unless they can show well founded fear of persecution for pro-US activities engaged in for ideological rather than economic reasons, yes. The South Vietnamese troops, well trained and well equipped, had an opportunity to fight for their country, and they ran.

46 posted on 10/13/2004 12:20:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Those South Vietnamese soldiers you so lightly dismiss were hit with the largest armored assault since the battle of Kursk, while deprived of the air support we had promised to deliver.


47 posted on 10/13/2004 7:52:27 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

"We're being overrun by Hmongs and Hmexicans"

Mexicans legal/illegal immigrants outnumber Hmongs by 1000:1.


49 posted on 11/05/2004 5:53:45 AM PST by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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To: kiax

It was your profane language.


50 posted on 11/05/2004 5:54:33 AM PST by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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"We're being overrun by Hmongs and Hmexicans"

Mexicans legal/illegal immigrants outnumber Hmongs by 1000:1.

I was Hmaking a joke.

51 posted on 11/05/2004 6:08:21 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Ah, i'm precaffinated. Hmy bad.


52 posted on 11/05/2004 6:10:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

really funny!!! I'll just laugh and eat some "crackers"..


53 posted on 11/05/2004 6:17:05 AM PST by kiax
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