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To: longtermmemmory
YEah? I like how the EU forbide member countries from running deficits but France and Germany do so anyway. I think we can see where this is all leading.

It seems to me that the whole reason the UN is IN the US is that we were sold a notion post WWII that we were naive in the ways of the world. Hopefully, in the post-post-modern era, we understand that that was just a tactic to try to bring us down. We understand them only TOO well.
51 posted on 12/23/2003 4:36:29 AM PST by johnb838 (CHRISTMAS! Jesus is the Reason for the Season. Say it Loud, I'm Christian and Proud!!!)
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To: johnb838
"we were naive in the ways of the world."

I think it would more correct to say we had unjust faith in our leaders.

#83

Be on the lookout for what Congress does in the next couple of years regarding international treaties with the United Nations. Congress authorizes these international treaties which give federal jurisdiction to the federal government. The desired effect is to expand the scope of federal authority over State Constitutions. These international treaties give federal agencies the lawful right to exercise them with federal police powers and the right to enforce federal criminal laws nationwide.

The Dem's have been the major promoters of these treaties, however remember President Nixon was the one who started us out with the EPA, so the Rep's don't have any difficulty either in crunching your State Constitutions to ineffective pieces of historic paper.

Even though most politicians are lawyers, they do not fully understand what is going on. The party leaders do along with the attorney general and of course federal judges. Anyone sticking their nose into this stuff without invitation is threatened with no Party assistance at the next election. This keeps everyone in control.

When Agenda 21 is firmly in place it will be authorized by Congress under the UN direction. This will be the complete end of our nation as a Republic. It won't matter what Party is in office, they will have to follow the Agenda 21 rulings.

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"Be on the lookout for what Congress does in the next couple of years regarding international treaties with the United Nations."

Exactly. And the heart of the problem is probably the worst mistake the Founders ever made, that is, Clause 2 of Article Six of the Constitution.

"Clause 2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. "

When our country will have lost its precious sovereignty, along with the Bill of Rights, every officer of the military, Homeland Security, the FBI, ATF, and every other part of the police-state apparatus, will be bound by those treaties. They will be "Constitutionally-sworn" to obey the "supreme law of the Land". Whoever the President is, he (or she) will not have betrayed their country by signing the bill. They will have acted as our representative and enacted our "will".

I've fought years to get people to recognize that the Constitution needs to be amended to strike Clause 2 and replace it with a clause that establishes the charge of treason for any official of the government who seeks to lessen US national sovereignty through treaty with any foreign power or entity. It is the only way to make sure that Agenda 21, and the chilling UN Millennium Treaty does not become the supreme law of America.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1041175/posts?page=88#88

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I don't think we stand a chance in HELL of getting any beneficial changes done with either of the current parties running the show.

58 posted on 12/23/2003 6:39:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: johnb838
The reason the UN is in the US is twofold. 1. the rockefeller family donated the land. (they wanted influence close at hand?) 2. If it was not in the USA, it would have gone the way of the league of nations.
82 posted on 12/23/2003 4:35:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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