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Stryker Crews Find New Vehicles Can Take A Punch
Tacoma News Tribune ^ | 22 Dec 2003 | Michael Gilbert

Posted on 12/22/2003 7:01:17 AM PST by centurion316

Tacoma News Tribune December 22, 2003

Stryker Crews Find New Vehicles Can Take A Punch

By Michael Gilbert, The News Tribune

SAMARRA, Iraq - Like many soldiers in the Stryker brigade, the crew of Charlie 1-4 had their worries about how their vehicle would hold up if it were struck by a roadside bomb.

Count them as big believers in the Stryker after their encounter with an improvised explosive device on a dirt street a week ago.

"If it had been a Humvee, we'd all be dead," said Sgt. 1st Class Mike Farnum, the senior man aboard Charlie 1-4 when it was struck by the IED the afternoon of Dec. 13.

Only the driver, Pfc. Chris Hegyes, 21, was injured, suffering a broken right foot and ankle. The rest of the crew was unharmed.

Their vehicle was destroyed - not by the blast, soldiers said, but by a fire in the engine compartment that spread throughout the vehicle and ignited their ammunition.

A second Stryker was hit by an IED on Saturday en route to a raid in Samarra, not far from the location of the Dec. 13 attack. Soldiers said it knocked off the left front wheel and damaged the hub, but no passengers were hurt and the vehicle continued on under its own power.

An OH-58 Kiowa Warrior helicopter crew spotted a pickup driving away from the scene and radioed its direction of travel to other Strykers in the raiding party.

They maneuvered on the truck, surrounded it and detained five men armed with four AK-47 assault rifles, said the brigade spokesman, Lt. Col. Joseph Piek.

That the Stryker was able to continue after the bombing, and that the others could move quickly to catch the pickup, demonstrated the vehicle's agility and ability to take a punch, Piek said.

"That's very good news for us," he said.

In the Dec. 13 strike, the crew from Crazyhorse Troop of the 1st Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment were at the end of a seven-vehicle convoy. The scouts were showing infantrymen around town in preparation for the brigade's Operation Arrowhead Blizzard, which was to begin in less than 48 hours.

As it turned out, the news the next day that Saddam Hussein had been captured postponed the start of Blizzard by two days.

The convoy had been riding around the city for a few hours when they headed out at 1 p.m. to return to a staging area outside the city.

"We caught some slit-your-throat signs, but that was about it," Farnum said.

They were passing by a dirty two-story brick house - like all the other dirty mud-brick houses in Samarra - when the blast occurred directly under the center front section of the vehicle, crew members said.

"That was the loudest damn explosion I ever heard in my life," said Sgt. Johnathan Vines, 23, who was standing in the rear right-side hatch.

Soldiers said the front of the vehicle lurched upward, then bounced back. Farnum, 37, who was riding across from Vines in the left rear hatch, said a great cloud of dirt and smoke instantly flew up around them.

They didn't know whether it was a bomb or a rocket-propelled grenade, but immediately the soldiers opened fire in all directions. They call it suppressive fire, and it's meant to kill or chase off anyone who might be waiting to follow the first explosion with another attack.

Inside, their medic, Pvt. James Nguyen, a 20-year-old from Seattle, went to work right away on Hegyes. The blast occurred almost directly under the driver, whose compartment is at the left front of the Stryker.

"I kept yelling at him. I thought maybe he was unconscious," Nguyen said. "I heard him making these moaning sounds, and I knew he was hurt."

Hegyes managed to crawl over his driver's seat but then stopped moving in the tight space between his compartment and the rest of the vehicle the soldiers call "the hell hole."

So Nguyen grabbed him and pulled him through.

"Then I put him on the floor and laid on top of him because I thought we were under fire," he said.

Instead, he saw his teammates laying down suppressive fire in all directions.

"Then I took him to the nearest building, found a corner and put him down and told him to stay there. I was pointing my weapon out in the street. I fired three or four times.

"Then Tillotson (Spc. Cody Tillotson, 20) came over and helped me pick him up and take him to another Stryker."

Spc. Clayton Womack said Nguyen began treating Hegyes right away.

"He had his boot off and ankle and foot wrapped in like 30 seconds," Womack said.

Womack said he used the fire extinguisher on the flames that were licking from the engine compartment, but to no avail.

The fire spread and set off secondary explosions when it reached the two antitank rockets, 40 mm grenades, 15-pound shaped charges and other ammunition.

All the crew members' belongings were in there, too - their clothes, their personal photos, all their snacks, a PlayStation, everything.

"We lost all the things that make us comfortable and remind us of home," Farnum said.

Soldiers from their unit and the 296th Brigade Support Battalion rounded up replacement clothes, some poncho liners the soldiers call "woobies," and sleeping bags.

They haven't had a chance to tell their families back home about their ordeal and put in orders for care packages.

Likewise they haven't been able to send best wishes to their driver Hegyes, a Sacramento native who they said served as the crew's deejay, serving up everything from Sinatra to rap.

"He's a good kid, a great soldier," Farnum said. "He was all worried that it was his fault when it happened."

Crew members were cheered, though, by the news that their comrades in the 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment on Saturday bulldozed the house where the IED had been set. After the blast the crew found wires running from the crater to the house and up to the rooftop, Farnum said.

Their only regret was that they weren't there to watch, the soldiers said.

Farnum said the crew did a great job reacting to the explosion, getting everyone out of the vehicle and getting medical care for Hegyes. If there's a next time, he said, they'll be better at catching or killing whoever sets it off.

"Oh, we'll get the guy," Farnum said. "Unless he's a world-class Olympic sprinter, he won't get away the way we've got it set up."

And for the folks at the Stryker factory, he said, "Tell 'em thanks. They did their homework."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armoredvehicles; infantry; iraq; iraqwar; laviii; sbct; stryker; strykerbrigade
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; archy
Judging from this pic,
http://community.webshots.com/photo/92508045/92508272oXKPrN
someone forgot to check the box for the "Corinthian Leather Interior" option. ;-)

How difficult would it be to add a pair of M240s with shields in the back of a Stryker, similar to what's on that gun truck?

Finally, I got a thank-you envelope from Baghdad Saturday. I had sent a couple of nice, large Christmas packages to some friends of a friend, and I got this in return. I'm just glad the stuff I sent made it.
http://images4.fotki.com/v50/photos/7/77755/500835/erationIraqiFreedomTshirtPatch-vi.jpg
61 posted on 12/22/2003 5:09:51 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: archy
Interesting. Those things aren't grossly expensive, either.

http://www.blacklionoptics.com/product_info.php?products_id=118
62 posted on 12/22/2003 5:19:12 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: archy

Sgt. Dustin Williams, from Bedford, Texas, a scout with 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, sets up a long-range advanced scout surveillance scope on top of his Stryker vehicle at Camp Udairi before leaving for Iraq.

63 posted on 12/22/2003 5:40:32 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: archy
Good gear! There's a great article on SFs in Iraq in super-humvees fighting off an ambush, and the driver talks about driving with his left hand while shooting out his window with his right on his EOTech equipped M-4.
64 posted on 12/22/2003 5:41:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
The reticle inside the EOTech holosight doesn't impress me much, although the sight itself does have the very neat and useful property of still being usable even when part of the glass gets smashed.

I prefer the Aimpoint Comp-M, or the newer Trijicon Tripower with the red inverted chevron -- they just work better for me. But once they're broke, they're broke.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

65 posted on 12/22/2003 5:48:48 PM PST by Joe Brower ("If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever." - G. Orwell)
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To: FreedomPoster
Interesting. Those things aren't grossly expensive, either.

When they get one that's not battery dependent, or at least has a backup, instantly available with the flip of a switch, reserve battery, I might hang one on a weapon. I'm thinking about an AK74S. I have a sweetie friend very fond of the Russian Kobra scope on her AK74, and it's worth a try being dragged kicking and screaming into the XXIst Century.

-archy-/-

66 posted on 12/22/2003 5:56:42 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: FreedomPoster
How difficult would it be to add a pair of M240s with shields in the back of a Stryker, similar to what's on that gun truck?

I'd bet the mount from a Humvee could be adapted pretty easily, and it'd give coverage both to the rear, or could swivel to cover the side it's mounted on, on out to about 45º toward the forward. Probably, either a 7,62 or .50 MG or a Mk 19 grenade launcher could be so fitted, though the vehicle could run out of .50 ammo pretty easily. Another possible setup might be twin M249 SAWs covering either side.

One of the two M240s [or M249s] would need to be set up for right side feed. Or an M240 could be used on the left, and a Russian 7.62 PK, which feeds from the right side, could be used for an *intirm* dual-mount gun.

If not, the fixed pintle mount off the old M114, which used an M60 to cover the vehicle's starboard side and rear while the TC faced forward, could be used instead. Last time I priced one, I think they were $45 apiece. And they'll support an M60 or M240 with a gun shield, though a Stryker's axles may not be real happy about the additional weight. Maybe drop one crewman per additional MG/ammo/armor?


67 posted on 12/22/2003 6:19:11 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Army seeks better Stryker communications

Army officials suggested increasing each brigade's number of Secure Mobile Anti-jam Reliable Tactical Terminal (SMART-T) systems from three to five and replacing each unit's 44 Near-Term Digital Radio Systems and Mobile Subscriber Equipment-Triservice Tactical Terminals with 53 Joint Tactical Radio Systems (JTRS) and Wide-Area Network Single Shelter Switch Baseband Nodes

More Stryker news will be showing up at the Stryker news website *here*, http://www.strykernews.com/

Until it does, it'll be in the archives *here*.

-archy-/-

68 posted on 12/22/2003 6:23:20 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
TAPCO has an FAL mount now that is raised so that the iron sights can still be used, in case of dead batteries. Isn't there something similar for an M4?

http://www.tapco.com/product_information.asp?number=MNT2418&back=yes&dept=136&last=18
69 posted on 12/22/2003 6:32:00 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
TAPCO has an FAL mount now that is raised so that the iron sights can still be used, in case of dead batteries. Isn't there something similar for an M4?

Yes, but I'd rather have a low-mont, as close to the bore as possible. The flip-up auxiliary sights will serve should breakage occur, or I've noticed a lot of guys with the M16A3 mounting their backup rear sight/carry handle assembly on the foregrip KAS rail under the foreend, where a flashlight is sometimes also fitted.

Check out the scope on this guy's M4/M16A2....

-archy-/-

70 posted on 12/22/2003 6:43:14 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
A Stryker blog. Thanks, archy.
71 posted on 12/22/2003 6:46:34 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: archy
Holy snikes! And the NVGs. Not a guy you want watching you at night, if you're up to no good.
72 posted on 12/22/2003 7:20:37 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Tribune7
Ping-show this one to your brother.
73 posted on 12/22/2003 7:40:43 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
it sounds like this vehicle is holding up quite well so far.
74 posted on 12/23/2003 1:48:40 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I know that this really late to be replying to this thread, but I haven't had time to be on FR until very recently. The Stryker in that photo is currently at my location and will be moving to Arifjan very soon. The only comment I have is that the blast didn't directly injure the soldier-when the soldier exited the vehicle he injured himself. No one was injured by the blast. In that respect, these vehicles are successful.
75 posted on 01/12/2004 4:06:44 AM PST by historian1944
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To: historian1944; archy
Really? Wow! Hey archy, take a look at the replied-to post.
76 posted on 01/12/2004 4:08:46 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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