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Stryker Crews Find New Vehicles Can Take A Punch
Tacoma News Tribune ^ | 22 Dec 2003 | Michael Gilbert

Posted on 12/22/2003 7:01:17 AM PST by centurion316

Tacoma News Tribune December 22, 2003

Stryker Crews Find New Vehicles Can Take A Punch

By Michael Gilbert, The News Tribune

SAMARRA, Iraq - Like many soldiers in the Stryker brigade, the crew of Charlie 1-4 had their worries about how their vehicle would hold up if it were struck by a roadside bomb.

Count them as big believers in the Stryker after their encounter with an improvised explosive device on a dirt street a week ago.

"If it had been a Humvee, we'd all be dead," said Sgt. 1st Class Mike Farnum, the senior man aboard Charlie 1-4 when it was struck by the IED the afternoon of Dec. 13.

Only the driver, Pfc. Chris Hegyes, 21, was injured, suffering a broken right foot and ankle. The rest of the crew was unharmed.

Their vehicle was destroyed - not by the blast, soldiers said, but by a fire in the engine compartment that spread throughout the vehicle and ignited their ammunition.

A second Stryker was hit by an IED on Saturday en route to a raid in Samarra, not far from the location of the Dec. 13 attack. Soldiers said it knocked off the left front wheel and damaged the hub, but no passengers were hurt and the vehicle continued on under its own power.

An OH-58 Kiowa Warrior helicopter crew spotted a pickup driving away from the scene and radioed its direction of travel to other Strykers in the raiding party.

They maneuvered on the truck, surrounded it and detained five men armed with four AK-47 assault rifles, said the brigade spokesman, Lt. Col. Joseph Piek.

That the Stryker was able to continue after the bombing, and that the others could move quickly to catch the pickup, demonstrated the vehicle's agility and ability to take a punch, Piek said.

"That's very good news for us," he said.

In the Dec. 13 strike, the crew from Crazyhorse Troop of the 1st Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment were at the end of a seven-vehicle convoy. The scouts were showing infantrymen around town in preparation for the brigade's Operation Arrowhead Blizzard, which was to begin in less than 48 hours.

As it turned out, the news the next day that Saddam Hussein had been captured postponed the start of Blizzard by two days.

The convoy had been riding around the city for a few hours when they headed out at 1 p.m. to return to a staging area outside the city.

"We caught some slit-your-throat signs, but that was about it," Farnum said.

They were passing by a dirty two-story brick house - like all the other dirty mud-brick houses in Samarra - when the blast occurred directly under the center front section of the vehicle, crew members said.

"That was the loudest damn explosion I ever heard in my life," said Sgt. Johnathan Vines, 23, who was standing in the rear right-side hatch.

Soldiers said the front of the vehicle lurched upward, then bounced back. Farnum, 37, who was riding across from Vines in the left rear hatch, said a great cloud of dirt and smoke instantly flew up around them.

They didn't know whether it was a bomb or a rocket-propelled grenade, but immediately the soldiers opened fire in all directions. They call it suppressive fire, and it's meant to kill or chase off anyone who might be waiting to follow the first explosion with another attack.

Inside, their medic, Pvt. James Nguyen, a 20-year-old from Seattle, went to work right away on Hegyes. The blast occurred almost directly under the driver, whose compartment is at the left front of the Stryker.

"I kept yelling at him. I thought maybe he was unconscious," Nguyen said. "I heard him making these moaning sounds, and I knew he was hurt."

Hegyes managed to crawl over his driver's seat but then stopped moving in the tight space between his compartment and the rest of the vehicle the soldiers call "the hell hole."

So Nguyen grabbed him and pulled him through.

"Then I put him on the floor and laid on top of him because I thought we were under fire," he said.

Instead, he saw his teammates laying down suppressive fire in all directions.

"Then I took him to the nearest building, found a corner and put him down and told him to stay there. I was pointing my weapon out in the street. I fired three or four times.

"Then Tillotson (Spc. Cody Tillotson, 20) came over and helped me pick him up and take him to another Stryker."

Spc. Clayton Womack said Nguyen began treating Hegyes right away.

"He had his boot off and ankle and foot wrapped in like 30 seconds," Womack said.

Womack said he used the fire extinguisher on the flames that were licking from the engine compartment, but to no avail.

The fire spread and set off secondary explosions when it reached the two antitank rockets, 40 mm grenades, 15-pound shaped charges and other ammunition.

All the crew members' belongings were in there, too - their clothes, their personal photos, all their snacks, a PlayStation, everything.

"We lost all the things that make us comfortable and remind us of home," Farnum said.

Soldiers from their unit and the 296th Brigade Support Battalion rounded up replacement clothes, some poncho liners the soldiers call "woobies," and sleeping bags.

They haven't had a chance to tell their families back home about their ordeal and put in orders for care packages.

Likewise they haven't been able to send best wishes to their driver Hegyes, a Sacramento native who they said served as the crew's deejay, serving up everything from Sinatra to rap.

"He's a good kid, a great soldier," Farnum said. "He was all worried that it was his fault when it happened."

Crew members were cheered, though, by the news that their comrades in the 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment on Saturday bulldozed the house where the IED had been set. After the blast the crew found wires running from the crater to the house and up to the rooftop, Farnum said.

Their only regret was that they weren't there to watch, the soldiers said.

Farnum said the crew did a great job reacting to the explosion, getting everyone out of the vehicle and getting medical care for Hegyes. If there's a next time, he said, they'll be better at catching or killing whoever sets it off.

"Oh, we'll get the guy," Farnum said. "Unless he's a world-class Olympic sprinter, he won't get away the way we've got it set up."

And for the folks at the Stryker factory, he said, "Tell 'em thanks. They did their homework."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armoredvehicles; infantry; iraq; iraqwar; laviii; sbct; stryker; strykerbrigade
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Soldiers on Saturday investigate the burned hulk of a Stryker destroyed by an improvised explosive device during an attack at Forward Operating Base Pacesetter. Guerilla forces ambushed a Stryker patrol near Samarra, destroying one vehicle — the first Stryker to be lost to hostile fire. The four-soldier crew escaped, but one soldier was injured in the attack.

41 posted on 12/22/2003 3:23:33 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Spc. Christopher Wilson, left, and Sgt. Randall Davis, a sniper team for Bravo Company, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, hold sniper rifles used during operations in and around Samarra. Leaders maintain that the Stryker brigade’s abundance of snipers is ideal for limiting collateral damage and civilian casualties during guerilla-style fighting.

42 posted on 12/22/2003 3:30:59 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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Sniper Sgt. Randall Davis peers down the holographic scope of the M-14 sniper rifle he used during operations in and around Samarra. Since mid-December, Davis has been credited with eight confirmed kills and two “probables,” a count no soldier in the brigade has matched.

43 posted on 12/22/2003 3:33:26 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: centurion316
They named a vehicle after that totally crappy 80's Christian hair-metal band?

Good grief.

44 posted on 12/22/2003 3:35:40 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
More good pics here.
45 posted on 12/22/2003 3:37:48 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
The four-soldier crew escaped, but one soldier was injured in the attack.

What happened to the Stryker's supposed advantages as a carrier of the 9-man Infantry squad?

It looks like some of the guys have caught on, and are now riding on top of their vehicles.

-archy-/-

46 posted on 12/22/2003 3:40:53 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Jonah Hex
I don’t know – I couldn’t find it on any TO&E.
But with today’s Army – who knows? With all the computers and electronics in the Stryker …
47 posted on 12/22/2003 3:44:55 PM PST by R. Scott (It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.)
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To: archy
You ever think of getting into weapons design?
48 posted on 12/22/2003 3:46:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
There are other photos I saw of this floating around the military email this morning (someone smarter than I will no doubt post them before too long). I belive this particular Stryker had an LRAS on top (Recce version). That is a system they are going to need priority replacement for!

Good that the crew survived, and verifies that the army is on target with having one Combat Lifesaver in each squad/crew.

As someone else in the thread pointed out: God was watching that driver!

That kid with 8 kills already...surprise bad guys...Snipers! Well, that was kind of a "secret" most of the folks who focused on the IAV forgot about...

Jury still out on the Stryker.

regards,

49 posted on 12/22/2003 3:46:56 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: archy
The vehicle commander was thrown. The four passengers inside braced themselves and were unharmed.

Doesn't sound like these guys were riding outside.

50 posted on 12/22/2003 3:47:32 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: archy
Archy,

It was a Recce Variant. The photos I saw today looked like there was an LRAS on top. Only 4 guys in one of those.

regards,
51 posted on 12/22/2003 3:49:21 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: Pahuanui
They named a vehicle after that totally crappy 80's Christian hair-metal band?

Good grief.

Could have been worse. They could have named it Great White.

52 posted on 12/22/2003 3:49:45 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Lazamataz
You ever think of getting into weapons design?

I've got one patent in trigger groups, and another, never produced, in the patent drawing and prototype stage, two in silencer/suppressor designs, and one developable for a unique operating system, with a possible spinoff suitable for a vehicular-deployed system. I've worked for both Army Ordnance and the Navy's Fleet Logistics Support center on small arms projects, and have a couple of current civilian irons in the fire as well. I do like to tinker, and most every time something new comes along, I like to think of how it might be applied among existing devices.

But what's more likely called for here is a better combination of existing or developable systems, rather than any breakthrough single item or process. Think of a bunch of hotrodders trying to change engines around.

-archy-/-

53 posted on 12/22/2003 3:58:39 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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Army seeks better Stryker communications

Army officials suggested increasing each brigade's number of Secure Mobile Anti-jam Reliable Tactical Terminal (SMART-T) systems from three to five and replacing each unit's 44 Near-Term Digital Radio Systems and Mobile Subscriber Equipment-Triservice Tactical Terminals with 53 Joint Tactical Radio Systems (JTRS) and Wide-Area Network Single Shelter Switch Baseband Nodes

54 posted on 12/22/2003 4:03:11 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
Sniper Sgt. Randall Davis peers down the holographic scope of the M-14 sniper rifle he used during operations in and around Samarra.

EO Tech HWS holographic sighting system info and Shockwave demo *here.*

55 posted on 12/22/2003 4:06:10 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Thunder 6
It was a Recce Variant. The photos I saw today looked like there was an LRAS on top. Only 4 guys in one of those.

Interesting, I've run across the LRAS3 Humvees, but not the recon Stryker version yet. I wonder if the Iraqi picked that one to pop his mine beneath because of that great lump up top.

All the commo and C4 infrastructure of the Stryker units should be an ideal match for a couple of recon variants. I wonder if we'll field one like the Canadian *cherrypicker* recon LAV IIIs.

56 posted on 12/22/2003 4:23:46 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
What happened to the Stryker's supposed advantages as a carrier of the 9-man Infantry squad?

Cav variant - 4-man crew. Infantry version is the only one that carries an infantry squad.

57 posted on 12/22/2003 4:26:12 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
JTRS with Link 16 will permit direct contact with the fast movers, both voice and digital comms - great for positive ID of friendly locations and for positive target designation.
58 posted on 12/22/2003 4:29:28 PM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
Cav variant - 4-man crew. Infantry version is the only one that carries an infantry squad.

Interesting. The Canaduians also run a 4-man crew in their similar Coyote LAV-III recon vehicle, just as we did in the 1965-era M114 recon tracks.


59 posted on 12/22/2003 4:45:15 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: fourdeuce82d
"Then I put him on the floor and laid on top of him because I thought we were under fire,

damn blurry monitor...

Same same here...they sounded pretty tight, worked well.

60 posted on 12/22/2003 5:03:57 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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