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To: Skooz
I've read Purpose/Church and Life and never got the impression that Warren was weak. He's not fire and brimstone, but that doesn't mean he's weak. I think the accusation that he's just marketing religion by dumbing down the gospel is unfair. People need to be loved into the kingdom and thats what he's doing. That's not shameful. People need a relationship with Jesus. That's what he offers. In doing so he affirms their worth in the eyes of God. I just don't see how that is bad.

Personally, I think a lot of smaller churches, of which I serve in, who are overly critical are often more jealous of megachurch success. They continue "doing" worship as if it were 1953 and not 2003. The end result is that the churches who fail to understand this culture will die, while others will reap a huge harvest. Some churches will not recognize anyone who does not believe exactly as they believe. That is nonsense.
82 posted on 12/21/2003 7:33:03 PM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: bethelgrad
bethelgrad, read a little deeper! No one is saying we shouldn't lead people to Christ with love. But to water down scripture to give the masses what their itching ears want to hear is wrong. Warren is trying to do the Holy Spirit's work here.....he is all about "church growth". The whole book is nothing more than a business model for bringing people in. TEACH THE WORD, the WHOLE WORD in your church, and you will see true growth!
89 posted on 12/21/2003 8:04:21 PM PST by sissydi (Trust in the Lord with ALL your heart....)
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To: bethelgrad
They continue "doing" worship as if it were 1953 and not 2003.

Times change, but the church shouldn't. I have yet to find a reason that churches should "do" worship differently than they have for hundreds of years. There are still those of us who worship--and prefer to worship--God through hymnody. I prefer leaving the rock ballads and anthems to secular bands, or at most CCM bands that aren't leading a congregation in worship.

174 posted on 12/23/2003 6:42:10 AM PST by The Grammarian (The church's one foundation is Jesus Christ her Lord/She is his new creation, by water and the Word.)
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