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To: ArrogantBustard
Still that big hang-up, eh? Your "history" is naught but error, and has been refuted ad nauseaum on the neverending story thread, among other places.

Right. What history would that be?

As you perfectly well know, but refuse to acknowledge, Christ gave the Keys of the Kingdom to the Apostle Peter, as head of the Apostles.

Christ said there was no one of the apostles greater than any of the others. That alone strikes down your "claim". It is a claim, not a given. The keys were given to all the apostles, as was the interpretational office of binding and loosing (interpretive, not legislative).

As for a successor - a successor must succeed in spirit, not merely in title. You guys are so caught up on title and your own philosophy that you don't any longer know what they taught - if in fact you ever did. That your churches could have binding and loosing so well misunderstood begs the imagination for any excuse.

The relative youth of your errors does not make them any less errors. Martin Luther's spirit of rebellion, to which you appear in some manner to subscribe, has nothing to do with Christ in particular, God in general, or anything remotely Holy. It has more to do with the Prince of this World, and I strongly suggest you abandon it for the Gospel.

You speak to me as though you have a clue either about Luther or about me. You appear to have neither. I'm not a protestant. And Luther wasn't given to a spirit of rebellion, the church was. Luther caved and didn't have the audacity nor the purpose of spirit to carry through properly with what he started. The errors of the protestants are as much his fault as that of Catholicism.

And finally, I'v followed scripture. And that is what turns so many of you rabidly against the message I preach. You are comfortable in your philosophy and would rather follow it than scripture. Anytime scripture puts a kink in your plans you denounce it as being but one input among many. That may work in philosophy and religianity; but it isn't Christianity and it don't work with God. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I've no horse in the race you choose. My only concern is for souls and truth. I don't sell a church title or beg athority over anyone. I merely present the gospel. A stumbling block to you, but for us, righteousness.

179 posted on 12/23/2003 8:38:16 AM PST by Havoc ("Alright; but, that only counts as one..")
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To: Havoc
Christ said there was no one of the apostles greater than any of the others

Bzzt. WRONG.

Matt 23:11
Luke 22:26
Luke 22:31-32
John 21:14-16

And, of course, Matt 16:18

If you can't even get such a simple thing as that right, why should I pay any attention to anything else you have to say? I've seen your performance on the NES thread, and it's no better.

181 posted on 12/23/2003 8:56:14 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Havoc
As for a successor - a successor must succeed in spirit, not merely in title.

Compare your opinion to the Scriptures, where Jesus says that the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat, and must be obeyed.

And yet you accuse others of following philosophy over and against Scripture! You would see better the speck in my eye if you removed the plank from your own.

185 posted on 12/23/2003 11:15:17 AM PST by Campion
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