DOJ/BATFE attack on Amateur Rocketry in America

Amateur Rocketry Society of America ^ | December 20, 2003 | ARSAnews

[boris]

A shame. Model Rocketry was my hobby as a teenager; now I'm a "rocket scientist". Entirely harmless and educational.

Like everything they touch, it looks like model rocketry will be destroyed.

--Boris

[Elsie]

Water and electricity will be banned next, for nefarious persons could dis-associate the Hydrogen-Oxygen-Hydrogen and make a NASTY explosive out of these common materials!

[GladesGuru]

Derivation of the term "expert":
"X" is a widely used symbol for an unknown.
"Spurt" is a widely plumbing term bor a drip under pressure.

Common usage combined the above and derived "expert".

So, now you know that an "expert" is an unknown drip under pressure.

Isn't it nice to know you are being protected by "experts' busy destroying rental trucks which will be payed for by the taxpayers? Don't you feel sooo much safer now?

[Peace will be here soon]

A shame. Model Rocketry was my hobby as a teenager; now I'm a "rocket scientist". Entirely harmless and educational.

---

It is a shame. The monster rockets some private citizens are building now were bound to attract the attention of the US government. Well, it did.

[martin_fierro]

OMLOID bump!

[templar]

If a terrorist wanted to shoot down a plane, why wouldn't they just use a rifle instead of some hair brained model rocket scheme? Seems like it would be a lot more successful. Besides, they shouldn't have much trouble bringing in all the shoulder fired SAM's they want across the Mecican (or Canadian) border.

[templar]

The monster rockets some private citizens are building now were bound to attract the attention of the US government. Well, it did.

Excercising freedon and liberty always does.

[E.Allen]

Was NBC News filming?

[shawnlaw]

If the ATF gets their way, it will really piss off my kid. We have built several medium and high power kits. Launching these babies is really fun. They kick butt on the old Estes and Centuri (yes I'm that old) rockets we used to launch as kids.

The ATF and Justice Department really have no clue what they are doing. As usual they go after soft targets...sounds kind of familiar?

I'm sure there are much more effective ways to do what they suspect can be done with model rockets. They need to concentrate on that not law abiding citizens trying to teach their kids rocket science.

[spunkets]

"Even birds can crash a jet."

Yes, but the experts can't even conduct a test w/o screwing things up big time. Unless the test of course was to determine the intellectual capacity of the jack boots, their spiritual leaders and their hired help.

Results of the testing done sofar:

1.10s of 1000s of kids and maybe their parents had lots of fun, learned and destroyed nothing.

Jack boots and their hired help => Introduced more nanny restrictions on Freedom, bolstered their propaganda corps, blew up their van and failed at their attempt to demonstrate that the hobbyists are dangerous. Reminds me of the 3 Stooges, but also Nazi Germany and every other 2 bit tyranical regime.

The jihadis steal their stuff. They don't make it. What they do use is govm't stuff like RPGs and regular mil ordinance.

[Lokibob]

bump for later

[visualops]

Hope they don't hear about fireworks and model planes.


A safety pin is a weapon in some hands.

Paranoia strikes deep.

[spunkets]

" The ATF and Justice Department really have no clue what they are doing."

They know exactly what they are doing. They are trying to make a fed crime out of it. They want playing with this stuff and thinking about it a heinous crime worthy of decades in prison. They want it ended both, because they fear it and they savor the bogus artificial position it elevates them to.

[spunkets]

"Hope they don't hear about fireworks and model planes. "

They're on to them too. Fireworks are a traditional target. Model planes are are a relatively recent target.

[bicycle thug]

This is ridiculous. I played with rockets as a kid and it got me interested in math, science and an enthusiastic space program supporter. This attack on a great hobby is ill advised. It makes no good sense.

What next?

[spunkets]

That's why they're after anvils, hammers and matches. Once they have them, it will be access to lands with chert laying around.

[Elsie]

(yes I'm that old)

Me too!

---

I was shooting these things off when I was a young pup in the USAF, stationed in Bangkok.

We had a little 'listening' place, between the runways of the Bangkok airport and the military, north of town.

I 'terrorized' an old fellow tending goats once, when a three stager managed to get horizontal at a height of about 8 feet above the landscape and zoomed over him and his flock.

I could not understand ALL of whatever he was saying, but he was SURE was excited!!!