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To: cornelis; Alamo-Girl; Phaedrus; marron; unspun
In one sense it makes no difference if this takes the form of a self-assertive ego like a Sartre trying authenticate living for himself or another who yields to whomever or whatever is deemed to have it. Either way, what must be had, can't be had but with a faith (and it need not be christian). Although when such a participation is considered a gift, it is more nearly christian.

cornelis, your analysis is brilliant. To carve out my own response to it, I'd start by saying there is a huge difference between a Sartre "trying [to] authenticate living for himself" and a christian "who yields to whomever or whatever is deemed to have it" [i.e., Life] -- which is ultimately God.

Sartre has no way to authenticate his own existential expeiences outside of his own personal resources. No wonder he is so anxious, so filled with distrust for the hellish "Other."

The christian, on the other hand, yields his existential experience to a judgment that is not conducted from his own internal resources. By this means, he is able to find both place and peace in this world.

But this does not mean the "christian-type mentality" will necessarily fall under the spell of the next slick shaman to come down the pike: Fundamentally, it seems to me the human spirit is quite discriminating about the things going on in its constituting environment (so to speak). IMHO.

It is precisely this putative human "instinct" for truth that comes most under attack these days -- so to get it to "doubt itself."

I'm sure in our modern world we will not lack for different points of view in regard to which is the "better" way to live a human life: Chronic existential angst, self doubt, and the ever-abiding keen skepticism about the motives, projects, and goals of the "hellish Other"; or an abiding sense of place and purpose in a Creation that is founded on ideas of love and mutual cooperation....

59 posted on 12/21/2003 8:38:30 PM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: betty boop; cornelis; marron
Thank you so much for your posts and this excellent discussion! I'm sorry it has taken so long to reply, but Christmas was quite busy with lots of company and this is my first chance to read the deepest and most engaging of the threads!

All of your comments are illuminating. I have nothing to add but "thank you" and a bump so others will not miss it!

80 posted on 12/30/2003 11:14:13 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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