[mrs tiggywinkle]

**Negotiation with these "madmen" is intensely risky business. It's nothing like the "negotiating" Reagan was able to do with Gorby & Gang! The Arab mind negotiates exactly like the liberal mind in a petulant, childish way!!! **

Exactly. You cannot reason with unreasonable people.

[thoughtomator]

Oh, but many are reasonable... and Saddam is Exhibit A of our method of reasoning with them.

When you've got em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

[SierraWasp]

Well... There is really only one way to reason with unreasonable people. Chairman Mao's way, when he said the only real power comes from the barrel of a gun, or something like that.

Reagan was only able to defeat Gorby because Gorby thought he was looking up the bigger barrel of Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative gun, aka "StarWars!"

There is another force that Mao didn't mention. It's called "Persistence & Determination!" Both Reagan and G.W. Bush seem to have it, Bush especially when he gits pist!!!

[Light Speed]

The Government of England in the 1880's ...surveying all the glory which was theirs in North Africa.

How quickly it all changed when the Black Flags of the Mahdi appeared...the routing of armies...the slaughter in Har'toom

Its there still...from the driven machination of the Palestinian...to the machinery which works benath the feet of say cowardly ruler of Syria.

This machination...Al Harb...House of War,
finds its emergence repeatedly in History.

Maybe it is really gone for ever...

Then again...the voice of the see'r such as Nostradamus postures that this resolve will appear again to contend...the war of Terror which runs some near 27 yrs ..and see's the world changed by its final outcome.