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Defense asks for investigation (Fox News Carol McKinley broke the story)
AP ^ | Friday, December 19, 2003 | AP

Posted on 12/19/2003 1:29:59 PM PST by Smogger

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To: saminfl
I think Sinkspur is taking his fan adoration a little too far.

First, if you mention me, ping me.

Second, I don't follow basketball, and, if I did, I'd despise KB, as I live near Dallas, and I'd be a Mavericks fan.

I've followed this case very closely, and the accuser has some MAJOR problems.

Kobe Bryant is an adulterer, no doubt. But, to be found guilty of rape requires more proof than we've seen so far. Already, there's reasonable doubt about who inflicted the "injuries" on the accuser, her having had sex with three men in three days.

101 posted on 12/19/2003 5:31:38 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: saminfl
How long has it been since anyone even attempted to lynch a black man for raping a white woman? I'll bet it is ancient history and there is not one person alive in the U.S. that would even think of that

Many on this thread have thought of it, and it was a very shameful part of American history, since much of this lynching was perpetrated by vigilantes on men who were falsely accused.

102 posted on 12/19/2003 5:34:51 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: saminfl
I have to agree with that. They act just like liberals. If they disagree with you it's racist. I think Sinkspur is taking his fan adoration a little too far.

I'd say so. lol

103 posted on 12/19/2003 6:25:02 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: sinkspur
Already, there's reasonable doubt about who inflicted the "injuries" on the accuser, her having had sex with three men in three days.

Where's your proof of this?

104 posted on 12/19/2003 6:26:29 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: sinkspur
Many on this thread have thought of it...

Just those that want the trial moved to an OJ jury.

105 posted on 12/19/2003 6:27:37 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
The defense must have a weak case if they're attacking something as silly as T-shirts.

What a twisted view. A more accurate one might be that they've disposed of the big issues and now are cleaning up the crumbs. Game, set, match to Kobe.

106 posted on 12/19/2003 7:24:53 PM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: ClintonBeGone
What a twisted view. A more accurate one might be that they've disposed of the big issues and now are cleaning up the crumbs. Game, set, match to Kobe.

Earth to CBG: The trial hasn't started yet. No issues have even been visited, let alone disposed of. That's why this looks so desperate for the defense. They don't have a defense so their going for the race and sluts defense.

107 posted on 12/19/2003 7:58:20 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
they're
108 posted on 12/19/2003 7:58:45 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
ya think maybe it was the defense team who were the "unknown source" of the T-shirts?
109 posted on 12/19/2003 8:20:07 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: King Prout
I'm sure they're leading the media to a lot of these fluff stories.
110 posted on 12/19/2003 8:33:22 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Smogger
"and is sold from the website www.hangkobe.com"

why do you keep saying that, when the image you post clearly reads "(symbol for 'hangman')TEES.com?"
puzzling.
I'm beginning to think you might be offended because you want to be offended.
111 posted on 12/19/2003 8:35:34 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: LisaMalia
"That said, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to bring the wrath of the Koby worshippers on themselves."

Cash maybe?
112 posted on 12/19/2003 8:58:52 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death
Well, when she sells her story to the tabloids, .....then we'll talk.
113 posted on 12/19/2003 9:05:42 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: Smogger
Total complete and utter nonesence [sic]. Until a few days ago they offered a grand total of two products. A bottle cap opener with a four leaf clover and the HANG KOBE T-SHIRTS. I see they have added Michael Jackson another black celebrity apparently worthly of lynching. This brings their product line up to a total of three.

Really. Until a few days ago?

Can you prove that?

Don't chicken out.

114 posted on 12/19/2003 11:12:40 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: #3Fan
They don't have a defense so their going for the race and sluts defense.

You can't have it both ways JR. If there are no issues visited, you can't say their is no defense.

115 posted on 12/20/2003 5:26:55 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: ClintonBeGone
You can't have it both ways JR.

JR?

If there are no issues visited, you can't say their is no defense.

It's a sign of weakness when a defense takes a chance on alienating the jury to insult them with stupidity. Stupidity such as making up rumors about the alleged victim and claiming this trial is a racial trial. If they had a strong defense they'd be better off just waiting for the trial to present it.

116 posted on 12/20/2003 8:51:56 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
It's a sign of weakness when a defense takes a chance on alienating the jury to insult them with stupidity. Stupidity such as making up rumors about the alleged victim and claiming this trial is a racial trial.

Rumors? The press has uncovered the accuser's background, and the prosecution didn't dispute the "three guys in three days" line of questioning in the preliminary hearing.

Face it. The prosecution has a very weak case, with an even weaker plaintiff, and their star witness is compromised, since he admits to having sex with the accuser a week before he just "happened" to be the first person the accuser told of her "rape."

If the judge allows the mental history of this accuser into the trial, there likely won't be a trial.

117 posted on 12/20/2003 9:01:35 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: #3Fan
It's a sign of weakness when a defense takes a chance on alienating the jury to insult them with stupidity. Stupidity such as making up rumors about the alleged victim and claiming this trial is a racial trial. If they had a strong defense they'd be better off just waiting for the trial to present it.

What a silly theory. All you have to do is plant reasonable doubt in the mind of ONE jurist. How naive it would be to wait till trial to do that when you have to do battle in the war of pre-trial publicity. I certainly hope that someone with your mindset is some sort of government bureaucrat rather than a defense attorney.

118 posted on 12/20/2003 9:04:33 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: sinkspur
Rumors? The press has uncovered the accuser's background, and the prosecution didn't dispute the "three guys in three days" line of questioning in the preliminary hearing.

The preliminary hearing wasn't the trial. Arguing with made-up rumors wouldn't have been applicable to achieving a trial. The defense was just being sleazy trying to try this case in the media. Must be weak.

Face it. The prosecution has a very weak case, with an even weaker plaintiff, and their star witness is compromised, since he admits to having sex with the accuser a week before he just "happened" to be the first person the accuser told of her "rape."

It's weak because the alleged victim has has sex before? Glad to see you're backing off the 3 men in 3 days claim and going with what's known that it was a week before. If it's true that she had 3 men in 3 days, you need to prove it.

If the judge allows the mental history of this accuser into the trial, there likely won't be a trial.

If I were rich, I would have fun a lot more.

119 posted on 12/20/2003 9:09:34 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: ClintonBeGone
What a silly theory.

Remember OJ? No defense so play race.

All you have to do is plant reasonable doubt in the mind of ONE jurist. How naive it would be to wait till trial to do that when you have to do battle in the war of pre-trial publicity.

Glad to see you admit that the defense is trying this in the media. Is that the way you want justice served, by trying the cases in the media?

I certainly hope that someone with your mindset is some sort of government bureaucrat rather than a defense attorney.

I certainly hope that people like you that enjoy seeing possible rapists go scot-free without a trial is no where near our judicial system or law enforcement.

120 posted on 12/20/2003 9:13:25 AM PST by #3Fan
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