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Answer to redistricting: Enlarge Congress
Townhall.com ^ | 12-19-03 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/19/2003 7:26:07 AM PST by FairWitness

Last week, when everyone who understands the First Amendment was rightly having conniptions over the Supreme Court's ruling that political speech can be severely regulated under the rubric of "campaign finance reform," the court also heard arguments in a major redistricting case brought by Pennsylvania Democrats. They're upset because they have a statewide advantage of some 445,000 votes but Democrats hold only seven of the state's 19 congressional seats. Their claim: Congressional districts are being drawn unfairly.

Truth be told, I don't particularly care much about the details of this case. The Democrats complain that the Republicans redrew the map so as to eliminate three Democratic seats. The Republicans say, you guys did it to us for decades, it's your turn to suck eggs.

OK, I may not be capturing the legal subtleties as well some scholars might. But the point is, it was ever thus. Gerrymandering - drawing districts for partisan advantage - is neither unconstitutional nor new. Indeed, the Supreme Court has made it clear that the only districts that violate constitutional principles are the ones excessively and explicitly gerrymandered along racial lines - you know, like the North Carolina district that snaked along Interstate 85 looking something like an X-ray of a colonoscopy.

Yes, I think Republicans in Texas and Colorado probably went too far when they decided to redraw congressional districts after the once-a-decade window was closed. And, maybe the Pennsylvania GOP has gone too far, though it doesn't seem like it to me.

But, look: It is simply inevitable that politicians will fight to draw congressional districts in the most advantageous way possible. Expecting them not to is like expecting Yogi Bear to abstain from eating picnic baskets for the sake of improving tourism.

I have the solution: Make Congress bigger. A lot bigger.

With 435 members, the U.S. Congress is one of the smallest representative bodies in the world. By "smallest" I mean literally and relatively. The British House of Commons is much bigger (659) and so is the British House of Lords (approx. 500). The French National Assembly (577 members) is bigger, as is the Mexican Chamber of Deputies (500), the Russian Duma (450) and so on. But, it's not just in absolute terms. Due to their smaller populations, these countries have fewer citizens for each representative, making them far more democratic.

The founding fathers wanted the U.S. Congress to grow with the population - and it did until 1920 when it froze at 435, largely as a failed effort to limit immigrant political influence. The only time George Washington chimed in during the constitutional convention was to implore his colleagues to reduce the size of congressional districts to 30,000 from a proposed 40,000. In the Federalist Papers, James Madison defended the size of these districts from numerous critics who considered them too large! Such mammoth districts, the critics believed, would amount to a tyranny.

Today the average congressional district has about 600,000 people in it (single-district Montana has closer to 1 million). By comparison, in 1790, half of the 16 U.S. states didn't have a combined population of 600,000. By today's standards, the 1790 House of Representatives would have had seven members and the Senate 24.

All of the ideas for fixing congressional districting call for more and more undemocratic intrusions into the process, particularly by unelected federal judges. Liberals and sympathetic judges want more minority representation. Fine. Most of us want representatives to reflect the values of their communities. That's fine too. Lots of people want "big money" gone from congressional elections. Also fine.

Expanding Congress might solve all of these supposed problems. A bigger Congress would be far more open to blacks, Hispanics, et al, for obvious reasons. Because fewer people would be electing them, representatives would have every reason to spend more time talking to a bigger share of their communities. And as for the influence of money, money would become less important in districts where TV ad spending was less of a prerequisite. And if you're worried about pork-barrel spending, there's every reason to believe it would be harder to get pet projects through a bigger Congress.

I don't know if we should have districts of 30,000 these days. That would create a Congress of more than 8,000 representatives. But a couple thousand wouldn't be a bad way to start.

Yes, there'd be a seating problem in Congress. But those guys are never all there to begin with and the British Parliament has had a standing-room only section for years. All of the voting is computerized, so that's not an obstacle.

The only thing keeping this from happening is that Congress gets to decide. And there's no reason to expect those guys to divvy up their own picnic baskets.

Jonah Goldberg is editor of National Review Online, a Townhall.com member group.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cfr; congress; legislature; redistricting; representation
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Despite the risks we should start planning on having a Constitutional Convention. One is needed, or all is lost.
61 posted on 12/20/2003 8:41:22 AM PST by bvw
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To: FairWitness
Not only would I want their numbers to either remain the same or SHRINK, much more than that, I would LOVE to see them in session MUCH MUCH LESS. Maybe about 3 months out of the year. Make NO LAW is my motto. Do the appropriations bills and GET OUT of town. The regulations that result from the laws passed in this country are mind-boggling!!
62 posted on 12/20/2003 8:42:00 AM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE - They will not FALTER - They will not FAIL!!!!!)
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To: FairWitness
Just what we need! More ....ing congressvermin! Only way I'd agree with it is if we could elect a bunch of them, and then declare an open season, no bag limit.
63 posted on 12/20/2003 8:45:15 AM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: bvw
A constitutional convention would be dominated by leftists. All would be lost if we go that route. The Constitution as it exists, battered as it may be, is our last line of defense against full-blown socialism. There's simply nothing left to protect us once it's gone.
64 posted on 12/20/2003 8:53:57 AM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: FairWitness
A camel is what we got when a committee designed a horse, I can't even imagine the monstrosity that would be designed by a larger committee (congress)!
65 posted on 12/20/2003 8:58:24 AM PST by dalereed (,)
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To: thoughtomator
I actually had the opposite idea...instead of 435...lets cut them down to 120. I'm even willing to double their pay in the process. And once we get it down to 120...we make a simple rule that you can only divide up the state districts by counties...which must touch. And the final change...ensure they meet for only two periods out of the year....a spring 60 day period, and a fall 100 day period. This would curtail the Sunday talk show routine to just senators....and start to make things more interesting. Representatives would then actually work and get things done during their brief episodes of attendance.
66 posted on 12/20/2003 9:04:07 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: ForOurFuture
The article you linked says the number 588 is based off of the 1990 census, when it says the population was about 203 million (This census document says the 1990 population was 249 million, so who knows). According to the linked document, the 2000 census counted 281 million Americans, which by the method in question would produce a 655 member house.

Glad you caught that. The 1990 census indicated that there were 203,578,000 citizens of voting-age (18 years or older) in that time-frame, which according to the cube-root formula would be ~588.27, which rounded down to a whole number of 588 potential Representatives as indicated in the linked article. The 2000 census indicates that there were 209,128,094 citizens of voting-age 18 years or older, of which the cube-root is ~593.56, rounded up to the whole number of 594 Representatives. Not too unwieldy a number...

Source: U.S. Census Bureau: DP-1. Profile of General Demographic Characteristics: 2000

dvwjr

67 posted on 12/20/2003 9:13:32 AM PST by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr
Glad you caught that.

And I'm glad you reminded me that it's based on voting age population. My neglecting that was the reason for the inconsistent numbers.

68 posted on 12/20/2003 9:36:20 AM PST by ForOurFuture
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To: Xthe17th
by reducing it too much, you render him unduly attached to these, and too little fit to comprehend and pursue great and national objects.

Right, don't expect the votors to have a clue, either. I'm still wondering how 10,000 representatives are going to fit into the Capitol building.

69 posted on 12/20/2003 11:47:28 AM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: Xthe17th
"RE: Multi-Member House districts. BAD IDEA . . . In such districts, we end up with deadbeat ('Rat) delegates who ride on the coat-tails of the other delegate(s) who either do all the work or don't and then point a finger instead"

In the case of WV, it would elect its 4 Representatives (it's currently 3, but after increasing the number of Reps to 570 WV would elect 4) from a 4-member district. Your district would almost certainly elect two Republicans and two Democrats. An important vote comes up, and only 1 of the Republicans votes the way you'd like, with the other Republican and the two RATs voting the wrong way. At the next GOP primary, where you can vote for 3 candidates, you vote for the guy who voted the right way and for two challengers (and not for the Republican who voted the wrong way). If the unfaithful Republican somehow makes it through the primary, you can just vote for the one good Republican in the general election (since you only vote for one candidate in the general anyhow). So you can hold both Republicans accountable. As for the two RATs who get elected, that's up to the RAT voters. If they want to send some idiot like Nick Joe Rahall to the House, that's their problem. But at least you'd have a couple of Republicans representing you instead of a single RAT-for-life who keeps voting to increase your taxes.

As for repealing the 17th Amendment and returning to a system in which state legislature elect Senators, while the idea appeals to me on federalism grounds, I don't think yoy'll get better representation that way. Do you think the WV legislature would ever vote against Byrd or Rockefeller? At least if a majority of West Virginians want to vote for Jay Wolfe instead of one of those two bozos they would be able to make a change in the Senate, but the RAT-dominated WV legislature would just keep sending back those two RATs no matter what the people think. Remember, it's easier to convince 50%+1 of West Virginians to oppose Byrd or Rockefeller and vote for Wolfe than it is to convince 50%+1 of West Virginians in each state legislative district to vote against their incumbent legislator merely because he or she voted for Byrd or Rockefeller. There are 1,000 other issues voters will concentrate on. Having state legislators elect Senators will make Senators even less accountable to the people than they are today.
70 posted on 12/20/2003 5:56:21 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: inquest
I think with more chances for real representation, the public would become more "civic minded"---national politicians would be more accessable, more "human" to the population.

A better relationship between America and her federal government is always a good thing.
71 posted on 12/20/2003 6:15:44 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: AuH2ORepublican
but the RAT-dominated WV legislature would just keep sending back those two RATs no matter what the people think.

Not for long. The political landscape is changing for the better rather quickly here in WV. The 'Rat truth is starting to sink in to the people.

72 posted on 12/21/2003 6:40:08 AM PST by Xthe17th (It's the Senate, Stupid! Repeal the 17th amendment. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/repeal17)
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