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Sept. 11 Panel: Bush, Clinton Not to Blame - No Evidence to Blame Clinton or Bush Administrations
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Posted on 12/18/2003 4:39:17 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: GeronL
The fact that they are starting this "Bush stole the election" crap again even though 7 recounts still showed Bush won is enough for all-out revolt for me. The media is lying for the RATS. The media needs to be defeated just as much as the RATS do.
To: Sub-Driver
So who is spinning this story?
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:06:02 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: All
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:06:21 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: Wait4Truth
right on
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:08:29 PM PST
by
GeronL
(Saddam is out of the hole and into the quagmire!)
To: GeronL
Well, gee - thanks. :-)
To: Mo1
The final report is due in May 2004. So depending upon what comes forth will define the amount of play it gets during the final days of the primary season into the conventions and then the general election. At least it will be earlier enough for corrections of misleading information or partial quotes from it. However it may also contain some stuff that will have to be dealt with. I think there are public hearings scheduled beginning early next year so a lot will begin to surface then.
I don't for one minute think the President was culpable in any way but still who knows what may have been done that was different at some point in the past several years that may have changed the outcome.
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:12:13 PM PST
by
deport
To: deport
I don't for one minute think the President was culpable in any way but still who knows what may have been done that was different at some point in the past several years that may have changed the outcome. I don't think he is either .. and we already know that many things could have been done differently.
What is going on now is a political game being played by the News networks with the help of Kean .. that by the time this report does finally comes out .. hardly anyone will be able to take it seriously
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:20:55 PM PST
by
Mo1
(House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
To: mitchbert
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Kean is a Republican, remember that. He was simply stupid in going to CBS News. Kean came out and reiterated what was really wrong on September 11th; that a lot of little stupid mistakes led to an easy attack on the U.S.. He was careful not to pin blame on Administration officials. He knows, as Bush and Clinton do, that the next step would be a document dump by the Bushies on someone's doorstep detailing every stupid thing Clinton let happen.
Clinton is being left alone because Bush doesn't want open partisan warfare in the middle of a military campaign. So he's letting sleeping dogs lie, which is a smart thing.
Every weapon the Democrats have dried has come up wanting. This will, as well.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:26:19 PM PST
by
section9
(Major Kusanagi says, "Click on my pic and read my blog, or eat lead!")
To: Wait4Truth
"... President Bush was working on the bin Laden problem, even though the RATS say he was doing nothing. ..."
And don't forget that the Senate was very slow to confirm Bush appointments in every department, leaving rats entrenched throughout the bureaucracy, impeding and interfering at every turn. Formulating coherent policy - or even obtaining enough good information to begin the process - was difficult, at best.
To: cyncooper
He demanded she name what act of war Saddam had ever perpetrated against the U.S. What act of war was ever perpetrated against the U.S. by nations in the Balkans?
What UN authorization did we get before we bombed them to oblivion from 30,000 feet?
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:29:13 PM PST
by
evad
(Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
To: section9
So he's letting sleeping dogs lie, which is a smart thing. Yes. For the reasons you state. Yes.
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:37:06 PM PST
by
mitchbert
(Facts are Stubborn Things)
To: Wait4Truth
>>Boy, I sure would like to know who the hell suggested to President Bush that he pick this guy for the chairman of this committee! Whoever it was should no longer be working there.<<
I agree, probably the same nincompoop who appointed Joe Wilson to go to Niger. They need to give a little more thought to these appointments.
To: section9
Every weapon the Democrats have dried has come up wanting. This will, as well.Agreed. However, Kean is an outright RINO (I know how overused that term is, but in Kean's case it fits perfectly), and if you look at the makeup of this "independent, bipartisan" commission he heads, you see that it's "bipartisan" only in the inside-the-Beltway elitist sense - that is, a bunch of hard-core, rabidly leftist hacks with a few spineless "moderate" Republicans thrown in for political cover, Republicans who are much more concerned with ensuring that the NYT and WP write only nice things about them than they are with finding out any truth.
I think Kean knew perfectly well what he was doing when he went to CBS; his mission was to plant a seed, and nothing more. I think he and his string-pullers on the Left would have preferred to wait for a more opportune time, but the capture of Saddam, with its inevitable accompanying surge in support for President Bush with the public (not to mention, the loss of a huge gun in the Rat propaganda arsenal), forced their hand.
Yes, I do think that this latest Rat attack will ultimately be about as successful as all their others have been, However, I'm afraid that a messy partisan finger-pointing game, the kind of thing that, as you pointed out, the President wanted to avoid in the middle of a war, is unavoidable now.
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:55:05 PM PST
by
CFC__VRWC
(AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
To: OldFriend
THere is probably little reason for blame. The real question how will we respond and how we will prevent attacks in the future. Its like getting a dog for protection. The husband wants a German shepard and the wife wants a Yorkie. In times of danger which is going to pee on the kitchen floor?
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posted on
12/18/2003 7:58:12 PM PST
by
oyez
(Incredible!)
To: mitchbert
Clinton waffled and ignored the problem, Bush stood up and took action to eliminate the problem. And the world is a better place today because Barbara's son did. Period. Unfortuneately it wasn't just Clinton. It was the American republic who chose to be apathetic.
Sinister chatacters come and go, watching friends and neighbors be too lazy to pay attention is actually heart breaking and very hard to understand.
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posted on
12/18/2003 8:02:10 PM PST
by
lizma
To: Sub-Driver; JohnHuang2
There has always been a total lack of political spine when it comes to facing the corruption and bungling that hallmark the entire sorry duration of the Clinton administration. Kean is an invertebrate and is not about to grow a spine, so he resorts to the old saw we hear when Democrats or Liberals fail or are wrong; "Everybody does it, and there is blame enough to go around".
Well, in this particular case, since it would be outrageous and obviously fraudulent to follow through with what Ben-Veniste and other Democrats on this commission want to do, namely blame Bush exclusively, they choose to blame no one. The facts be damned!
Clinton simply did NOTHING for 8 years about the mounting terrorist threat; nothing that had any hope of being effective, that is. In reality, he spent more time covering up evidence of Saddam's involvement in the 1993 WTC bombing, the Bojinka affair, his deceiving of arms inspectors and missing opportunities to nap Bin Laden, than he ever did in serious measures against the then unrecognized terrorist war on America.
Since the RINOs like Kean and the Clinton supporters can't bring themselves to face the truth, and they won't be able to get away with blaming Bush, then nobody is really guilty, just "mistakes were made". Nothing substantive will come from the final report of this commission, because political considerations long ago trumped national security concerns. Politics is our "Achilles Heel". If Bin Laden were smart, he would invest his millions in buying votes for Dean, and paying off Kean. But I don't think Bin Laden is subtle enough to figure out how to infiltrate out political process, but he could ask the Chinese for help. They would happily give it.
To: Saints fan
I agree, probably the same nincompoop who appointed Joe Wilson to go to Niger. They need to give a little more thought to these appointments.Bush and his circle had nothing to do with sending Wilson, nor were they ever briefed about his suspicious trip. His wife, the now infamous Valerie Plame, had a hand in it, and most likely her boss who just left his position at the CIA back this past September.
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posted on
12/18/2003 8:25:45 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: Sub-Driver
The fix is in, to be sure. They magnanimously "forgive" GW for any "transgressions" during his 7 months in office while at the same time forgiving "The Bent Traitor" for his 96 months of criminal neglect and debauchement of national security during his full term.
Of course, along the way, they will still find many stones to cast in GW's direction. The biased media will of course perform the full Clinton pleasure Monty, as usual. In the distant future, Clinton will be reviled as a pusillanimous criminal. Too bad I will not live long enough to witness it, as much as I would enjoy seeing him receive his just deserves this day.
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posted on
12/18/2003 8:33:10 PM PST
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
To: cyncooper
I thought it was Dick Cheney's office that asked Wilson to go to Niger.
To: mitchbert
Amen!!!
All valid points and I totally agree.
The Clinton's destruction of the CIA and the military as a whole while their time in office certainly "contributed" as well to the events as they unfolded.
Clinton would say things publicly and then basically do nothing...G.W. stated what he was going to do and then DID it!!
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posted on
12/18/2003 8:43:30 PM PST
by
FlashBack
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