[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

On the contrary, thereis a ton of work that can be done with only an AS degree. I know

Also, up here in Ct, we have a glut of Engineers, me being one of them, only an AS, but 7 years experience as project engineer/designer.

The issue is not lack of engineers, it is lack of jobs.

If Thomas Edison griped about the lack of jobs in backward America, we would still be reading by candle light. Engineers have knowledge. Engineers who want to lead can become like Edison. It's not that hard to create things. You just have to get off your ass and go do it. Bill Gates figured this out in his first year of college. He left the stuffy academics to their pretentions and created a whole new sector in the computer industry that was avoided by IBM, Digital, and Sun.

[RaceBannon]

Once again, apples and oranges.

I can apply for a few jobs that pay $8 an hour, but I wont get hired. Tried it. Never got hired, got told I was going to leave once the economy picked up.

That's a fact.

Too bad people here dont see that. They might start talking sense. Maybe as soon as they realize taking an $8 an hour job for job security wont pay bills and force people into bankruptcy...

Oh, nevermind, too many people still think we live in the 1800's to talk any sense into them...

[Paul Ross]

It's not that hard to create things

An off-base and ignorant assertion. Your pejorative attacks on those whom you mistakenly 'presume' to be doing nothing. With assumptions such as this, it explains a great deal why you are overly smug and arrogant. Try and manufacture something in the U.S. with garage-scale economic backing today. You are competing against all of China, and its horde of intellectual property violators. Your design patent may as well be used for toilet paper.