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RealNetworks Sues Microsoft Over Antitrust
Yahoo/AP ^ | 18 December 03 | RACHEL KONRAD

Posted on 12/18/2003 2:48:22 PM PST by Golden Eagle

RealNetworks Sues Microsoft Over Antitrust

By RACHEL KONRAD, AP Business Writer

SAN JOSE, Calif. - RealNetworks Inc. filed an antitrust suit against Microsoft Corp. on Thursday, alleging that its competitor has illegally monopolized the growing field of digital media by requiring every Windows user to take Microsoft's media player, whether they want it or not.

RealNetworks alleged that the software giant has violated state and federal antitrust laws, exploiting its monopoly to restrict competition.

The Seattle-based digital media company said Microsoft "pursued a broad course of predatory conduct over a period of years by abusing its monopoly power, resulting in substantial lost revenue and business for RealNetworks."

RealNetworks filed the lawsuit against Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft in federal court in San Jose because many of the experts and witnesses who will testify in the case live in Silicon Valley, RealNetworks spokesman Greg Chiemingo said.

Microsoft spokesman Jim Dessler said the company had not yet seen the lawsuit and he could not comment immediately. The company planned a statement later Thursday.

The lawsuit alleges that Microsoft, which builds the Windows operating system that controls more than 90 percent of the personal computers in the United States, restricts how PC makers install competing media players. Microsoft forces Windows users to accept Microsoft's media player, "whether they want it or not," to the exclusion of players made by RealNetworks or other competitors, RealNetworks alleges.

"While we much prefer competing in the market — as we are doing and have done for nine years — our board has made a carefully considered business decision to take this action to end Microsoft's illegal conduct and recover substantial damages on behalf of our shareholders," RealNetworks chairman and chief executive Rob Glaser said in a statement.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: antitrust; microsoft; realplayer
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1 posted on 12/18/2003 2:48:22 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Bahahaha...RealNetworks is one to talk...especially since their REAL ONE spyware is the only software that can play .rm files/streams and it is a worthless, boating piece of sh*t.
2 posted on 12/18/2003 2:52:01 PM PST by xrp
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To: Golden Eagle
It's too damn bad Microsoft couldn't be left alone to kill off RealNetwork's horrid media player.
3 posted on 12/18/2003 2:52:10 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: Golden Eagle
I hate Real Player.
4 posted on 12/18/2003 2:55:22 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Golden Eagle
So they're su ...buffering, buffering, buffering... ing
5 posted on 12/18/2003 2:58:25 PM PST by sigSEGV
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To: xrp; petitfour
There is no audio or video stream I need to see enough to make me load RealPlayer on any machine around here.
6 posted on 12/18/2003 3:00:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: xrp
Bahahaha...RealNetworks is one to talk...especially since their REAL ONE spyware is the only software that can play .rm files/streams and it is a worthless, boating piece of sh*t.

LMAO, now granted, the audio spectrum is pathetically impossible to modify, the new color scheme is horrid, but they do have some good content like MLB.COM. I actually stream realaudio from my own personal website, they make it real easy to launch in the background and if the client has RA installed (which most do) they can start receiving huge audio files immediately on connection without even getting a popup of any sort. So IMO it has some uses and helped pioneer the streaming industry without question, which is why they are willing to go after M$.

7 posted on 12/18/2003 3:00:36 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I used to use RealAudio, but RealPlayer was junky & RealOne is just plain trash. Nonetheless, there are better players out there than what MS forces onto everyone.
8 posted on 12/18/2003 3:01:01 PM PST by Mudcat
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To: Golden Eagle
Isn't Washington state senator Cantwell involved with Real Networks?
9 posted on 12/18/2003 3:01:19 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death (,/i)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Yes, it is how she paid for her campaign.
10 posted on 12/18/2003 3:04:31 PM PST by DaiHuy (MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
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To: sigSEGV
that was funny...
11 posted on 12/18/2003 3:05:16 PM PST by rit
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To: Golden Eagle
Not to mention CEO Rob Glaser ponying up $2 million to ACT's Anybody But Bush campaign at a party hosted by George Soros..........
12 posted on 12/18/2003 3:06:06 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: petitfour
I hate Real Player.

Unlike MusicMatch Jukebox, I have found Real Player does a fantastic job of ripping CD audio to MP3.

13 posted on 12/18/2003 3:06:25 PM PST by newgeezer (Std. disclaimers apply, e.g. I have no affiliation with any products I mentioned.)
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To: newgeezer
I used to use RP to rip and others to play. Pretty much use Media Player now. Hard to beat the features being free, and it does seem to perform a bit better than Real.
14 posted on 12/18/2003 3:07:51 PM PST by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: Golden Eagle
I might believe it if Real wasn't such utter crap when compared to Windows Media Player. There's no comparison to the Nescape/Explorer issue in the 90s.

There is an interesting issue around their WMV format though. People who made video editing tools were told to remove WMV compatability because of patents (people often used to convert to other more open formats). I'm not sure I like that since it has the effect of locking people into WMV when faced with WMV content.

15 posted on 12/18/2003 3:13:48 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ingtar
I used to use RP to rip and others to play. Pretty much use Media Player now. Hard to beat the features being free, and it does seem to perform a bit better than Real.

I was under the impression MS Windows Media Player uses some sort of limiting copyright management feature when ripping. That and/or it rips to WMA instead of MP3.

So, I've never considered using it for ripping. Admittedly, if I rip 3 CDs in a year, it's a big year.

16 posted on 12/18/2003 3:14:04 PM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. ;-)
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To: Golden Eagle
Real has tried every possible trick to grab a monopoly themselves. For instance, the damned thing is installed on your computer, like it or not, whenever you install or upgrade AOL.
17 posted on 12/18/2003 3:18:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Golden Eagle
The big thing I seem to remember is that both Real Networks and Microsoft had, for a while, set things up so that automatic updates of their media programs would change file associations without asking the user. Now that both groups have stopped doing that, I don't think Real Networks has much of a case here -- they still have a proprietary format of their own, after all.
18 posted on 12/18/2003 3:19:12 PM PST by kevkrom (This tag line for rent)
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To: newgeezer
That is easy to turn off in the options. I use Media Player to rip my CDs. I've also started using the MS .WMA format for my music verses MP3.

I tested a couple of pieces of music and found I got a better quality audio file with .WMA then I did with .MP3 and with a smaller file size.

I'm no real fan of MS but I have nothing against Media Player and the .WMA format.

19 posted on 12/18/2003 3:23:46 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: kevkrom
Real Player and Windows Media are crap compared to Irfanview as a viewer (not streaming) which is free. What I find hilarious is that so perfect Microsoft is again shown to be predatory (Bush2000 et al take note). Both real player and media player are spyware I don't want anything to do with. Wait till DRM and mediaplayer are merged, then everyone will be sol.
20 posted on 12/18/2003 3:27:48 PM PST by FastCoyote
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