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To: 11th_VA
"Army questioning soldiers' plan to armor vehicles"

I'm hoping that the Pentagon will take a close look at some of the ideas that these guys have, take the best of those ideas, standardize them and take this effort forward. The guys probably know the basics of what needs to be done better than anyone. Lives could be saved here.

5 posted on 12/18/2003 2:55:45 PM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh
I wonder how long it's been since the fat, arrogant, desk-jocky stuffed-shirt martini-sucking beauraucrat who "forbids" this sort of field innovation has ventured into a Combat Zone?

These jerks who put their sacred "rules" and "SOPs" before the lives of our brave young men and women putting their lives on the line in a faraway, hostile environment just rub me contrary to the natural lie of my fur!

I wish someone would yank their corpulent, haughty, pansy lard tushies out from behind that nice comfy desk in that cozy air-conditioned office and plop it down spat in a Humvee having to make that run from Baghdad to Tikrit every day!

A lot of those candy-arsed two-bit tin-horn brass-plated dictators are long overdue for a reality familiarzation course, PRONTO, IMHO.

Back in Vietnam they used to pack hot asphalt between the door panels of the trucks and between plywood panels on the floors, let it solidify, and lower the seats like a "low-rider" hot-rod car. And I don't think they asked any washington beauraucrat's bloody permsission to do it, either!

Where are the Gun-Trucks in these convoys, anyway?
Anyone remember those? Another example of American GI innovation - and I don't think they had to bribe any fat cat in Washington for permission to rig those up, by the way.

Somebody in that Pentagon had best wake the heck up!
11 posted on 12/18/2003 3:12:35 PM PST by Uncle Jaque ("We need a Revival; Not a Revolution;... a Committment; Not a New Constitution..." -S. GREEN)
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To: davisfh
I'm hoping that the Pentagon will take a close look at some of the ideas that these guys have, take the best of those ideas, standardize them and take this effort forward.

And of course they’ll have to have a multi million dollar study, arrange the quid pro quo for after retirement from service, triple the cost as a minimum and add a lot of unnecessary high tech.

17 posted on 12/18/2003 3:21:40 PM PST by R. Scott (It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.)
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To: davisfh
I'm hoping that the Pentagon will take a close look at some of the ideas that these guys have, take the best of those ideas...

A jury-rigged contraption attached to tanks, though up by an American G.I., helped deal with the hedgerows of Noramandy that had previously stopped American armor.

Rhino Tanks

18 posted on 12/18/2003 3:23:11 PM PST by Polybius
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To: davisfh
"I'm hoping that the Pentagon will take a close look at some of the ideas that these guys have, take the best of those ideas, standardize them and take this effort forward. The guys probably know the basics of what needs to be done better than anyone."

Test pilots test a plane's flying capability. Test drivers test an auto's driving capability. So, it's only fitting to get the expertise of guys who have been shot at, or have witnessed the failure of their's (or other's) vehicle first-hand, how best to armor it. Not some pencil-necked desk jockey who has never been in the line of fire. I'll bet that a lot of these "good ole farm-boy" soldiers could rig up some very safe and effective armored vehicles...

You know, fear for one's life and limb can be a better "mother of invention" than is necessity. Those boys in Viet Nam came up with some pretty niffty stuff to save their bacon... This "new-breed" of soldier is no different.

21 posted on 12/18/2003 3:26:56 PM PST by KriegerGeist ("Never in the face of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few." Winston Churchill)
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