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AMD introduces budget Athlon 64 (3000+ rating )
CNET ^ | December 18, 2003, 12:00 PM PST | Michael Kanellos

Posted on 12/18/2003 1:11:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Advanced Micro Devices has quietly trotted out a version of its Athlon 64 chip that provides a little less performance than earlier models but only costs about half as much.

The new Athlon 64 3000+ runs at 2GHz, the same as the existing Athlon 64 3200+, but it only comes with a 512KB secondary cache, according to an AMD spokesman. The 3200+ features a 1MB cache. A cache is a pool of memory integrated into the processor for rapid data access. In general, large caches lead to better performance.

AMD, however, prices the Athlon 64 3000+ at $218 in quantities of 1,000 while the 3200+ sells for $418. At AMD, the new chip is known as the "A-Rod," a reference to baseball player Alex Rodriguez. The chip was released earlier this week.

Despite the lower price, the chip likely costs about the same to manufacture as the version with the larger cache because it is about the same size, analysts said. AMD declined to comment on the manufacturing cost. Company executives have said that a version of the Athlon 64 with a smaller die, the piece of silicon itself, won't appear until the 90-nanometer manufacturing process kicks off in the second half of next year.

"They have disabled half of the cache," said Nathan Brookwood, an analyst at Insight 64. Still, the new chip could help the company improve its output. Some chips in the testing process get thrown out because the full 1MB cache doesn't work. However, many of these chips can be resold as 512KB chips and will not show any flaws.
  
 
 
Although it was delayed for around two years, the Athlon 64 has managed to gain a following in the market. Anecdotal reports from smaller PC companies that cater to gamers and hobbyists, such as Falcon Northwest, indicate that computers containing the Athlon 64 3200+ chip, which debuted in September, are selling well.

Hewlett-Packard, meanwhile, has started to sell a PC under its Compaq Presario brand that incorporates the chip. Budget PC specialist eMachines came out with a PC that uses the 3200+ Athlon 64 earlier this month.

The performance rating AMD gives its chips, however, has begun to overlap, so consumers need to pay close attention to figure out which chips meet their needs. AMD also sells an Athlon XP 3000+. While it shares the same performance rating number as the new Athlon 64 3000+, there are substantial differences.

The Athlon XP 3000+ is based around the older "Barton" processor core. It cannot run 64-bit software, according to AMD. A small amount of 64-bit software exists now, but it is expected to start to trickle into the market next year. The Athlon XP 3000+ also does not feature an integrated memory controller or HyperTransport, two features of the Athlon 64 family that boost performance by around 10 percent to 15 percent if all other factors remain equal, according to AMD engineers.

As a result, the new Athlon 64 3000+ will provide better performance than the Athlon XP 3000 +, said an AMD spokesman, even though the numbers are the same. Interestingly, the Athlon XP 3000+ runs at 2.1GHz.

AMD and Intel are once again locked in a battle for performance supremacy. Intel has come out with an Extreme Edition of the Pentium 4 to counter the Athlon 64 and plans to introduce a spiffed-up version of the Pentium 4, code-named Prescott, in February. The chip will likely run at 3.4GHz or higher at its debut, according to sources.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Technical
KEYWORDS: 64bit; amd64; linux; techindex
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To: RLK
nah ITT XTRA

I win

Inside, the usual 16-bit 8088 microprocessor, 128K RAM (expandable to 256K), and 32K ROM (expandable to 64K) reside on the motherboard. The Xtra supports the 8087 numeric co-processor, and five expansion slots allow you to install memory, graphics, and other expansion boards. A RS-232C serial port, which can handle up to 9600 baud, and a parallel port are included.

41 posted on 12/18/2003 4:23:09 PM PST by Brellium
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To: Brellium; RLK
Those were the days!
42 posted on 12/18/2003 4:34:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: BrooklynGOP
Check out this review , the 9800 is one hot card:

ATI VGA Roundup `2003

43 posted on 12/18/2003 4:37:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I know. I got the 9800 pro, pre ordered it from ATI last march.. Cost me arm n a leg. The thing is a monser, though! Got its own power connector!
44 posted on 12/18/2003 5:09:58 PM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Slowest Athlon 64 humbles fastest P4 in gaming
45 posted on 12/18/2003 5:21:49 PM PST by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: BrooklynGOP
Yes can't say enough nice things about the 9800, I have the AIW, the best thing I ever did buy, well till its obsolete in a few months ;) And this coming from a die hard Nvidia fan, but they really dropped the ball on the lame duck FX series. But their nForce chipsets still rule.
46 posted on 12/18/2003 5:22:02 PM PST by battousai (Coming Soon to an election near you: Pasty White Hillary and the Nine Dwarfs!)
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To: battousai
I had nvidia before this one. I had the gforce3 ti 200. It was decent for a bit.
47 posted on 12/18/2003 5:29:22 PM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Nick Danger
Excellent Report !
48 posted on 12/18/2003 5:36:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: jmcclain19
I agree; I always build my own computers because I already have all the software I need, and I can build it cheaper and out of better components (i.e. a quality motherboard from a trusted company such as Asus, rather than the generic brand found in preconfigured boxes). However, this guy seemed like a novice; didn't know the difference between a Celeron and an Athlon. So, I would recommend to him a prefab computer with tech support.
49 posted on 12/18/2003 5:43:33 PM PST by psychoknk (Green Party = Watermelon Party: Green on the outside, red on the inside.)
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To: Brellium
Uhmm.. I thought 8088 was 8 bit? 8086 is 16 bit.
50 posted on 12/18/2003 6:01:30 PM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Just saw this this morning......

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ATI'S RADEON™ 9600 drives graphics in new eMachines 64-bit powerhouse T6000 desktop PC

Friday December 19, 2003

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MARKHAM, Ontario – Proving once again the solid adoption of its latest performance graphics, ATI Technologies Inc. (TSX:ATY, NASDAQ:ATYT) announced today that the RADEON™ 9600 visual processing unit (VPU) will be included in the T6000, the newest series of desktop PCs from eMachines, which sells the third-highest volume of PCs in the United States, according to IDC. The T6000 series offers optimum power, speed and performance for gaming and multimedia applications.

The RADEON 9600, based on the acclaimed RADEON™ 9800 architecture, brings high-quality, powerful graphics to performance mainstream users for less than $200 USD. The true cinematic quality visual effects are driven by the RADEON 9600´s full-time, full-precision floating point architecture with four pixel pipes and dual vertex engines and offer full support for Microsoft® DirectX™ 9.0 and OpenGL™. The RADEON 9600 features 128MB/128-bit dual channel memory support and drives cinematic visual quality for games and other graphics-intensive applications.

“Our goal is to provide high-speed gaming and other high-performance applications at great value to our customers,’ said Gary Elsasser, Vice President, Technology and Platform Development, eMachines, Inc. “ATI´s RADEON 9600 graphics were the natural choice, offering the best graphics quality for an excellent price.’

“We´ve had tremendous success with the RADEON 9600 technology,’ said Rick Bergman, Senior Vice President, Marketing and General Manager, Desktop, ATI Technologies Inc. “Earlier this year ATI transitioned to .13 micron chips with the RADEON 9600, and the influx of design wins like this exciting announcement about eMachines proves that the transition was smooth and the product is outstanding.’

The T6000 is designed to offer cinematic gaming experiences and accelerate digital photography applications such as Adobe Photoshop. It also provides a platform for cutting-edge 64-bit applications, promising new computing experiences that are planned for release as early as the first quarter of 2004.

In addition to featuring RADEON 9600 graphics, the eMachines T6000 also includes a the revolutionary AMD Althon™ 64 processor 3200+ with “HyperTransport’™, 512 MB 400MHz DDR, 160 GB 7200RPM 8MB cache hard drive, CD-RW and DVD drives, front panel 8 in 1 Media Reader and 7 USB 2.0 ports. The T6000 is available exclusively this quarter from Best Buy.

For more information about ATI´s market-leading graphics, go to www.ati.com. For more information on eMachines products featuring ATI´s RADEON graphics, go to www.emachines.com.

  

The T6000 is available exclusively this quarter from Best Buy.

Check out Best Buy!!!!!!

51 posted on 12/19/2003 9:45:44 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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