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To: sinkspur
Guess you didn't read the article:

But he also said he will leave to states "whatever legal arrangements people want to make." Asked specifically about civil unions, he said it is a state issue "unless judicial rulings undermine the sanctity of marriage."

That left many conservatives and pro-family groups wondering just how far the president is willing to go.

"What the president said is confusing, and some will find it hard to distinguish from Howard Dean, who supported domestic partnerships in Vermont at the state level," said Gary Bauer, president of American Values, a conservative interest group.

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Bottom line: the prez said civil unions are OK with him, as long as states- such as Dean's -- do it. I'm sorry you can't spin that fact away, but facts are stubborn things.

17 posted on 12/18/2003 9:35:54 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Asked specifically about civil unions, he said it is a state issue "unless judicial rulings undermine the sanctity of marriage."

If the federal government began intervening in legal arrangements between consenting adults, you'd howl like a stuck pig!

It's the status quo, buff, no matter how you try to spin it.

18 posted on 12/18/2003 9:38:57 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: churchillbuff
Bottom line: the prez said civil unions are OK with him, as long as states- such as Dean's -- do it.

No...he did NOT say it was okay with him, he said that states have the right to make the decision for themselves, as long as they do not undermine the sanctity of marriage. He supports states rights (as he should)...not civil unions. Big difference.

22 posted on 12/18/2003 10:00:27 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: churchillbuff
"Bottom line: the prez said civil unions are OK with him"

Sorry, don't see where he said that. He said leave it to the states whatever legal arrangements they want to make UNLESS it threatens the sanctity of marriage.

57 posted on 12/19/2003 7:18:32 AM PST by MEGoody
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