To: jwalsh07
The state also defines "underage" and "age of consent"- they're not born of natural law, or parental discretion. Since it does, it has the power to define special cases of age of consent, such as procuring an abortion.
You might not like it, and I've never known a prolifer to let things like truth or the Constitution (specifically, the Tenth Amendment, with the attempts to federalize abortion bans. Do NOT bring up Roe v. Wade- that had nothing to do with the Constitution, regardless of what some Justices say) get in the way of their agenda.
41 posted on
12/17/2003 9:23:39 PM PST by
TheAngryClam
(Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
To: TheAngryClam
The state also defines "underage" and "age of consent"- they're not born of natural law, or parental discretion. Since it does, it has the power to define special cases of age of consent, such as procuring an abortion.Spoken like a true statist.
You might not like it, and I've never known a prolifer to let things like truth or the Constitution (specifically, the Tenth Amendment, with the attempts to federalize abortion bans. Do NOT bring up Roe v. Wade- that had nothing to do with the Constitution, regardless of what some Justices say) get in the way of their agenda.
What tenth amendment? You mean the one that didn't obtain in Lawrence v Texas? That tenth amendment? Don't make me laugh. Sodomy is a right but life isn't. Tell the truth now, are you Harry Browne?
43 posted on
12/17/2003 9:28:10 PM PST by
jwalsh07
To: TheAngryClam
I don't understand why you are so angry at those who disagree with the change in status of a drug from "perscription only" to "over the counter."
You are correct in that the States do assume the privilege of regulating the "age of consent" or make special cases. That is one reason for every citizen who values his life and freedom to participate in the actions of the State, by encouraging those regulations we each agree with and working to overturn those that we disagree with.
The State in our Republic, or Federation of United States, is run democratically and, on the Federal level, by representatives who are chosen by the electorate, and those they appoint to regulatory agencies.
States and the Federal Government do not actually have "rights." The rights of the State are no more than those of the individuals who empower the States and the Federal Goverment. The State can not legitimately move to infringe on the inalienable rights of human beings, most especially the right not to be killed or enslaved.
The States have endeavored to regulate medical and surgical procedures. That regulation carries with it the responsiblity and risk. It also carries the virtual guns and force of the State into the medical relationship. That is why the concept of a "regulated," "private" act is an oxymoron.
It's my opinion that the State cannot deny parental control for minors at the age when the parent has financial and civil and criminal *responsibility* for the actions of the child. With responsibility comes privilege and vice versa.
70 posted on
12/17/2003 10:04:01 PM PST by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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