[Ant_biter]

"Put your trust in a man on earth and you will be decieved."

Matthew 10:41 "Whoever receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and whoever receives a righteous man because he is righteous will receive a righteous man's reward."

Do you trust the ministers of your church? Please do not forget that you yourself is also a "man" with limited knowledge. Just trust yourself and the bible alone is quite an arrogant and egotistic attitude and certainly is not the bible's message. Even Peter, Paul, Barnabas argued and came to a better understand of God's will.

Besides, if you do not trust others, how do you expect others to trust you?

[sasafras]

Oh come on - are you really as ignorant as you sound? Do I consider the pastor of my church the "holy father"? Not! He is a person, a man, who is esteemed but not worshiped like a god. Do you catholics really believe that a priest or the pope serves as God's incarnate on earth - to pardon your sins and forgive your tresspasses from others? Where in the bible does it give these powers to a priest or the pope? Forgiveness of sins comes straight from Jesus not a priest. Oh and one other point - where in the bible does it say that you should pray to "saints" or the virgin Mary? It seems that Catholics have lost the idea of who the savior is and are caught up in the Catholic reliance on relics, religious routines, and folklore.

Mt7:15-23
Lk6:43-45

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them...Many will say to me on that day 'Lord, Lord did we not prophesy in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me you evildoers!'

[Zechariah11]

Why are yiou two squabbling about the Catholic Church? The thread is about the movie. Geeeesh!