[eastforker]

Yeah,but who is gonna fill them,not the ones I just mentioned.Thats why I said it has to be slow,and I am inclined to think that is what will happen.

[Quix]

One of my professors--a 'fellow' in Carter's White House . . . advising on social psychology, etc.

asserted that significant social change in one relatively moderate area took at least 100 years.

I don't think we have that long at all. Too many transition factors from the status quo have been steepening their graph curves increasingly in recent years. The pressure from the have nots to have their fair share of the modern goodies is just one inexorable pressure that only famine, war, etc. would moderate.

Then there's whatever is happening with the biosphere whether or not global warming is a factor. The weather effects of El Nino on food production alone is seen as increasingly cataclysmic as the years race by.

Add in the population growth and water supplies already bleak, polluted to increasingly just nonexistent--witness melting of glaciers.

AT least plenty of the powers that be around the world see things as largely hopeless and are bracing themselves for a diversity of catastrophes.