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Hillary puts the shiv in Dean's side.
1 posted on 12/16/2003 11:41:16 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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In a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, she declared herself to be "thrilled" at Saddam's apprehension, adding, "We owe a debt of gratitude to the troops, to the president." Those aren't the words of someone who plans to run for president in '04.

She had some kind words for the USSR, as well.

2 posted on 12/16/2003 11:42:35 AM PST by Huck
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Dean looks like the sacrificial lamb now, but there's still eleven months to go, and the Dems are preparing to shove all their chips behind the chances for catastrophe between now and then. I think they're wrong, but their strategy is obvious.
3 posted on 12/16/2003 11:47:09 AM PST by Argus ((Ninety-nine and forty-four one-hundredths percent Pure Reactionary))
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A basically good article, but I take issue with Wendell Willkie's inclusion as a "dove." In 1939-1940, Willkie was one of the very few Republicans arguing for US intervention in the then-"war in Europe", as opposed to the isolationists Dewey, Taft, and Vandenberg. After Hitler's armies invaded Denmark, Norway, and France just before the GOP convention, people became more convinced that US involvement was warranted.
4 posted on 12/16/2003 11:54:59 AM PST by TheBigB (Just because you talk slower...doesn't mean your thoughts are any deeper...)
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To be sure, Saddam's nabbing might not have changed the military situation in Iraq, but it's apparent that politics has changed here at home.

Well, isn't that the whole point of this global soap opera?

6 posted on 12/16/2003 12:11:27 PM PST by eskimo
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To: .cnI redruM
One minor point: I wouldn't exactly call McClellan a dovish candidate. He was an extremely vain man, who would have wanted the glory that came with finally beating the Confederates, but the reason he lost was because of his perceived subordination to the Peace Democrats like Vallandingham.
8 posted on 12/16/2003 12:30:42 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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"But they are the words of an '08-er, a candidate who wants to make sure that past dovishness can't be used against her. And of course, for the gentlelady from New York to run in 2008..."

I've said this before. It's worth repeating. I am beginning to conclude that all of this speculation about "Hillary in '08" is utter nonsense, and whistling past the graveyard. How on earth do these pundits expect this skanky broad, with all of her President Caligula baggage, to be competitive after five more successful years of President Bush, who is shaping up to be the greatest president this country has had since Teddy Roosevelt a hundred years ago.

As much as the Dems may wish otherwise, it ain't gonna happen. Let Hillary run. She won't do any better in a general election than Dean is doing right now. Bet on it!

The Democrats have made themselves the modern equivalent of the Whigs. There won't be enough of them in five years to put up a candidate for dog catcher.
10 posted on 12/16/2003 1:35:22 PM PST by vanmorrison
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Dean will make McGovern look like William the Conqueror.
12 posted on 12/16/2003 1:49:13 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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George McClellan in 1864

THAT's who Ashley Wilkes Clark reminds me of... good old George McClellen. The erstwhile commander of the Army of the Potomac who's indecisiveness lost numerous battles, almost got Washington burned, and led to the ascendency of General Ulysses S. Grant. Good article. The thing that gets me though, is that these people talk about a swing in numbers of 5-10 points in Bush's approval ratings like it really matters in terms of whether he gets re-elected. He's going to put a boot in their @$$ no matter who they run against him.
13 posted on 12/16/2003 1:59:23 PM PST by johnb838 (CHRISTMAS! Jesus is the Reason for the Season. Say it Loud, I'm Christian and Proud!!!)
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