SCO attacks keep coming back

Grow up, Linux punks...

"Grow up, Linux punks..."
What's that suppose to mean? Everybody's servers are subject to these kinds of attacks. Some less, some more, but everybody gets hit. What are they wining about? They just need to lock them down a little tighter.

Incidentally, most of the attacks come from windows machines...

"Grow up, Linux punks..." What's that suppose to mean? Everybody's servers are subject to these kinds of attacks. Some less, some more, but everybody gets hit. What are they wining about? They just need to lock them down a little tighter.

It stands to reason that those with a significant motive -- ergo, Linux punks -- have the most to gain by shutting SCO down. Don't even start with the "O.J. is innocent until proven guilty" crap.

Incidentally, most of the attacks come from windows machines...

Which were compromised by Linux punks. That dog won't hunt.

I feel no sympathy for SCO.

I don't give a rat's ass if you disagree with SCO. The issue is whether you're on the side of a bunch of Linux punks who want to shut down a lawfully-operating business.

IBM?

What's their ISP consist of, a broom closet full of Linksyses?

What's their ISP consist of, a broom closet full of Linksyses?

What difference does that make. They're a law-abiding business. They deserve to be able to operate like any other company, regardless of the hardware that they choose to deploy.

By your logic, the Linux punks (whomever they are) probably don't have much to do with it

- Most of the script kiddies don't use Linux

- "Linux Punks" gain nothing from DDOSing SCO. So by your logic they are most likely not the ones doing it.

- There has been discussion in techie circles initially doubting there the attack and pointing out that the attack being claimed is easily defeated if they equipment was uptodate. Its a very odd DDOS as well, some addresses work of thier router, and others dont. Some of the geeks think is a misconfiguration or internal error of some sort.

- Qualified people are watching, and will be able to track and block any attack. "Linux Punks" would know this.

- Not sure how being a "Linux Punk" makes it more likely that they compromised Windows machines. The difference in architectures makes it unlikely that a Linux Only Punk could even do it.

Your perjorative based dog is the one that doesnt hunt here

None of this has much to do with:
- The looney postion taken by the SCO CEO on copyrights, licenses and the Consitution. Its so out to lunch he would fit right in on the 9th Circuit.
- Their latest product release getting lousy reviews,
- Their venture captial people are changing their deal with SCO to veto the windfall to the SCO lawyer
- The investment community starting to bail.
- Judge in the IBM suit has ordered them to publicly identify "infringing code". Note that every released snippet so far has proven to be bogus.

SCO is going to be toast, its only a matter of time. DDOS or not.

Check out www.groklaw.com for some of the details.

They just sound like a penny whistle operation. A giant like SBC would laugh this off.

Most of the script kiddies don't use Linux

Speculative.

- "Linux Punks" gain nothing from DDOSing SCO. So by your logic they are most likely not the ones doing it.

Sure, they do. They get to annoy and interfere with the operations of a company that they despise.

- There has been discussion in techie circles initially doubting there the attack and pointing out that the attack being claimed is easily defeated if they equipment was uptodate. Its a very odd DDOS as well, some addresses work of thier router, and others dont. Some of the geeks think is a misconfiguration or internal error of some sort.

The self-same geeks that don't want the Linux community to be associated with a DDOS attack also want to be blame it on a faulty configuraion/hardware. Typical.

- Qualified people are watching, and will be able to track and block any attack. "Linux Punks" would know this.

Wrong. The attackers are using zombified machines. That doesn't help the defenders.

- Not sure how being a "Linux Punk" makes it more likely that they compromised Windows machines. The difference in architectures makes it unlikely that a Linux Only Punk could even do it.

They're exploiting known holes in MS software to zombify machines. The root kits are widely available and accessible to the Linux community. They're not going to use their own boxes to launch the attacks. That would be too incriminating.

They just sound like a penny whistle operation. A giant like SBC would laugh this off.

Whatever. I'm not going to criticize SCO for something being perpetrated by criminals.

"Don't even start with the "O.J. is innocent until proven guilty" crap"

Did you forget to take your meds again?

SCO is a criminal organization.

SCO is a criminal organization.

What a bunch of blowhard nonsense. If you have information that SCO executives have committed a crime, contact the SEC and the FBI. Otherwise, you're perilously close to slander.

Most of the script kiddies don't use Linux

Speculative.

No, its not. The very term script kiddie means someone who uses the tools of others without having the knowledge to create them on their own. It comes from war scripts used on IRC among other things. That most script kiddies run windows is well know in the net security community

- "Linux Punks" gain nothing from DDOSing SCO. So by your logic they are most likely not the ones doing it.

Sure, they do. They get to annoy and interfere with the operations of a company that they despise.

All it takes is one person with their zombie herd to run a DDOS. SCO has set themselves up for every kid with a set of scripts. Your assumption that is it Linux bubbas is indeed speculative.

- There has been discussion in techie circles initially doubting there the attack and pointing out that the attack being claimed is easily defeated if they equipment was uptodate. Its a very odd DDOS as well, some addresses work of thier router, and others dont. Some of the geeks think is a misconfiguration or internal error of some sort.

The self-same geeks that don't want the Linux community to be associated with a DDOS attack also want to be blame it on a faulty configuraion/hardware. Typical.

Have your read any of the analyses of what is being seen? There are some very odd things about this so called attack. SCO has its own router and /16. A SYN flood kills the targeted router. Yet other machines on that router are doing fine. Under the circumstances, misconfiguration is a valid question.

- Qualified people are watching, and will be able to track and block any attack. "Linux Punks" would know this.

Wrong. The attackers are using zombified machines. That doesn't help the defenders.

Right. Every packet has a trail. zombies can be blocked. This attack has LOTS of publicity. The one thing that may come out of it is to force Comcast, Verizon, SBV and others to respond to complaints about zombies. Right now they do nothing. Furthermore, SYN floods can be stopped easily. They have been attacked before and clearly have not addressed the issue. SCO can and should do better, the rest of us can and do.

- Not sure how being a "Linux Punk" makes it more likely that they compromised Windows machines. The difference in architectures makes it unlikely that a Linux Only Punk could even do it.

They're exploiting known holes in MS software to zombify machines. The root kits are widely available and accessible to the Linux community. They're not going to use their own boxes to launch the attacks. That would be too incriminating.

Wrong. The zombie herd has to be controlled somewhere. All packets can be traced. Its a matter of time and expense. Furthermore zombie clients (which are different than root kits) have to get their orders and report status. That is their key weakness. Eventually it all routes back to the zombie herd master. Finally, every the zombie client for every herd has to be custom...otherwise it would respond to only to the person who created it. There is a lot more to the technology here than you appear to understand.

I do not support these attacks against SCO, but blaming nebulous Linux Punks is about as silly as SCO's public statements.

SCO is a criminal organization.

What a bunch of blowhard nonsense. If you have information that SCO executives have committed a crime, contact the SEC and the FBI. Otherwise, you're perilously close to slander.

I am not fan of SCOs business practices, but I can not recall a credible report of criminal activity. Their attempt to sue their way to profitability however, is repugnant. Right now a protective order (limits public release of data) is pending in the IBM case. Not clear yet how much that is going to cover. Clearly the Linux community wants full disclosure of any code considered infringing by SCO. Every sample they have given out so far has been shown to be in Linux legitimately.