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1 posted on 12/15/2003 3:54:09 PM PST by sarcasm
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2 posted on 12/15/2003 3:54:49 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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3 posted on 12/15/2003 3:57:41 PM PST by gubamyster
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There are many reasons to give the nation's illegal immigrants some legal status, and national security is one of them. Mr. Ridge and his staff want to know who these people are and whether they pose a risk.

Tom Ridge is a risk. He should be sacked.


4 posted on 12/15/2003 3:58:17 PM PST by Sabertooth
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Like I wrote on a previous thread, whenever GW and his Administration are doing anything that pleases the NY Times editorial staff, they should ask themselves: "What are we doing wrong?"

Seriously.

5 posted on 12/15/2003 4:01:12 PM PST by Map Kernow ("A liberal is someone who won't take his own side in a dispute" ---Robert Frost)
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For over two years now, the White House has been virtually silent about how to relieve an immigration mess that has been building for nearly 20 years

What a crock. We all know where they congregate (usually illegally as well) and could be easily rounded up. I would support the deportation tax expense much more than 90% of the others.

6 posted on 12/15/2003 4:03:47 PM PST by doodad
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"That concern was understandable, but it stalled a bipartisan effort to deal with the 8 million to 10 million illegal immigrants who live, work and even pay taxes in this country"

That would be more like 40 million illegals in this nation less than half of whom pay taxes while shipping $14,000,000,000.00 out of the US economy each year while draining the resources of states.

The biggest security threat to this nation is this administration, Tom Ridge, Homeland insecurity, the demonrat party, the repulican party, and the press.
7 posted on 12/15/2003 4:05:18 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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It is past time for Tom Ridge to find another line of work.
Is he trying for the VP slot on Howard Dean's ticket?

So9

8 posted on 12/15/2003 4:05:30 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Effing the Ineffable.)
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Reggie Rivers: Ridge at last redeems himself
      Posted by logician2u
On 12/12/2003 10:59:31 PM PST with 15 comments


The Denver Post ^ | December 12, 2003 | Reggie Rivers
Article Published: Friday, December 12, 2003 reggie riversRidge at last redeems himselfBy Reggie Rivers I never expected to like Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ever since the position was created, I've been suspicious about the organization's mission. The advent of color-coded terror alerts and duct-tape-and-plastic panics just cemented my view that Ridge and his staff were part of a shock-and-awe campaign designed to scare us into surrendering our rights. But this week, I was pleasantly surprised to read that Ridge thought that millions of illegal immigrants in the United States should be granted some form of legal status short...
     
 
***CAPTION THIS***Director Tom Ridge at Miami Event to Float Illegal Alien "Trial Balloon"
      Posted by AmericanInTokyo
On 12/12/2003 6:59:11 AM PST with 37 comments


Miami Herald ^ | 12 December 2003 | AmericanInTokyo
     
 
RIDGE IS WRONG
      Posted by DoctorMichael
On 12/12/2003 6:32:45 AM PST with 91 comments


Washington Times ^ | 12/12/03 | Editors
Ridge is wrong We disagree with Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's remarks on Wednesday supporting the legalization of millions of illegal immigrants now living in the United States. Speaking at a town hall meeting in Miami Wednesday, Mr. Ridge declared that the government "had to come to grips with the presence of 8 million to 12 million illegals" now in the country, in order "to afford them some kind of legal status some way." While Mr. Ridge said he was not advocating the granting of citizenship to this group, history suggests that legalization is often a first step in that...
     
 
White House verifies immigration review
      Posted by yonif
On 12/12/2003 12:05:21 AM PST with 350 comments


The Washington Times ^ | December 12, 2003 | Jerry Seper
    The White House yesterday said a new immigration review is under way that could lead to amnesty for millions of illegal aliens living and working in the United States.     Confirmation of the review came during a White House briefing, just two days after Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said during a town hall meeting in Miami that the government had to "afford some kind of legal status" to the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the country.     "We've taken steps to improve border security -- significant steps, I might add; have made great progress there. We've taken steps...
     
 
Bizarro GOP, Ridge Offer Pass to Illegal Aliens
      Posted by yonif
On 12/11/2003 9:15:42 PM PST with 124 comments


Rush Limbaugh ^ | December 11, 2003
Tom Ridge, who is charged with securing our borders as the Secretary of Homeland Security, took it upon himself recently to solve our huge illegal alien problem - by suggesting we "legalize" eight-to- twelve million lawbreakers. Did Ridge not take an oath to defend the laws of the United States? Why are immigration laws, the lax enforcement of which was key the 9/11 attacks, somehow meaningless? Then there's this from the Arizona Republic: "U.S. and Mexican officials are discussing an agreement that would allow millions of Mexicans to go home and still collect U.S. Social Security checks." Does this not...
     
 
Ridge rapped for immigration views
      Posted by kattracks
On 12/10/2003 10:30:42 PM PST with 44 comments


Washington Times ^ | 12/11/03 | Jerry Seper
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's suggestion that 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens now in the United States be "legalized" drew harsh criticism yesterday from congressional and other opponents of such legalization.     Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican and chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, said Mr. Ridge should resign if he is unable or unwilling to enforce immigration laws enacted by Congress.     "Mr. Ridge ought to read the laws he is charged with trying to enforce," Mr. Tancredo said in a telephone interview. "We have laws on the books that call for him to find and deport these...
     
 
Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire
      Posted by VU4G10
On 12/11/2003 9:08:56 AM PST with 89 comments


newsmax.com ^ | Thursday, Dec. 11, 2003 | NewsMax.com Wires
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's expression of support for giving legal status to immigrants drew congressional criticism Wednesday but heartened advocates. At a town hall meeting in Miami, Ridge said the country needs to "come to grips" with an estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants and "determine how you can legalize their presence." He also said during a visit to Florida on Tuesday that the immigrants should not be rewarded citizenship. Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary for border and transportation security, said Wednesday in Miami that Ridge's comments simply reflected the debate in Congress on immigration. "Secretary Ridge addressed it...
     
 
AMNESTY CRISIS: Fight Tom Ridge's new plan
      Posted by Klickitat
On 12/10/2003 1:28:20 PM PST with 191 comments


Numbers USA ^ | 12-10-03 | Roy Beck
The country needs your faxes and phone calls immediately and steadily over the next few days. Tom Ridge, the head of the new U.S. Department of Homeland Security, yesterday advocated legalizing (giving amnesty) to 8-12 million illegal aliens. Click here to read the story titled: "Homeland security chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrants." "Click for article" This creates an immediate crisis that must be met with massive outcry -- like the outcry in August of 2001 that stopped Pres. Bush's July proposal for a massive amnesty for some 3.5 million illegal aliens from Mexico. The most important thing is shoot this...
     
 
Homeland security chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrants
      Posted by patriotUSA
On 12/10/2003 10:33:06 AM PST with 49 comments


South Florida Sun-Sentinel | Posted December 10 2003 | Tanya Weinberg
Homeland security chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrantsHomeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge told a Miami audience Tuesday that the country should legalize millions of undocumented immigrants living in the country. "The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way, but also as a country decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it," Ridge said at a town hall meeting at Miami-Dade Community College. The forum was the second in a national series organized by the nonprofit Council...
     
 
Ridge: Give illegal entrants 'status'
      Posted by Klickitat
On 12/10/2003 5:18:44 AM PST with 106 comments


The Miami Herald ^ | MICHAEL VASQUEZ
Ridge: Give illegal entrants 'status' A top Bush administration official suggests at a town hall meeting in Miami that illegal immigrants should be granted limited legal status. BY MICHAEL VASQUEZ mrvasquez@herald.com Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Tuesday that he believes the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the United States are not a threat to national security and should be given ``some kind of legal status.'' Ridge's comments came during a town hall meeting at Miami Dade College in response to a question from the audience about whether offering amnesty to illegal immigrants might make them easier...
     

9 posted on 12/15/2003 4:06:53 PM PST by Sabertooth
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the White House has been virtually silent about how to relieve an immigration mess that has been building for nearly 20 years.

We should tell the corrupt elites of Mexico that they're next after Iraq unless they get to work fixing their mess of a country up. Tell them their time is up ---- either they allow for a middle class or they can expect a Revolution to run them out of power because there will be some limits on how many people they can hope to export.

10 posted on 12/15/2003 4:11:40 PM PST by FITZ
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If the White House finally wants to start doing something, they could start by letting all employers know that they are going to $suffer$ if they hire illegals before they hire Americans. Enforce the laws.
11 posted on 12/15/2003 4:14:05 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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The "Dream Act" would allow children of illegal aliens who are raised in the United States to pay in-state tuition rates at public colleges

A cleverly worded dodge. The children are themselves illegal aliens, in addition to being the "children of illegal aliens".

There isn't any reason at all why they can't head home to their own country to go to a university. And we won't even get into the 14th amendment equal protection violations of a state giving a benefit to an illegal alien that it will not give to a United States citizen from another state.

13 posted on 12/15/2003 4:14:37 PM PST by Regulator (Fire Ridge. Soon.)
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Whats this? A New York Times editorial and no BARF ALERT !!
16 posted on 12/15/2003 8:23:30 PM PST by Missouri
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How can I get paid for writing such dumb and confused editorials. May dad is liberal and has given up on the NYTimes. He says the quality of writing has declined.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 2:26:49 AM PST by dennisw
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But his candid comments in Miami last Tuesday, which apparently caught the White House off guard,

Bullsh/t. Ridge's comments were an obvious WH trial balloon.

19 posted on 12/16/2003 10:25:20 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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