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| 12/15/03
| Neal Boortz
Posted on 12/15/2003 4:56:05 AM PST by Crazieman
MONDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2003
OUT OF HIS HOLE ... AND OUT OF IRAQ
The last time I returned to Atlanta form a long weekend in Las Vegas was on September 9th, 2001. Two days later the world changed. Yesterday I was awakened by my cell phone at about 4:30 Vegas time. Saddam Hussein had been captured ... did I want to rush to the station and do a special Sunday morning show? No ... I wanted to get up, get breakfast, and head to the airport for my already-scheduled Airtran flight home.
We can rejoice in America at Saddam's capture, or at least some of us can. As you'll see below some Democrats and other assorted leftists are having a bit of a problem getting into the spirit. More on that in a bit. No matter how happy we may be at this news, there is no real way we can understand what is in the hearts and minds of the Iraqi citizens who suffered under this despot. We simply cannot identify with the fear that the Iraqi people had of this man. How many mass graves have we found now in Iraq? What is the Hussein death toll? Surely hundreds of thousands. Here is a man who used chemicals and poisons to kill thousands of his own. Across Iraq there are families missing fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who know in their hearts that their loved ones were taken from them by this man found yesterday hiding in a hole.
Here's an idea for Saddam's eventual punishment. After the interrogation is completed, after Saddam has had his day in court, take him back to that hole, stuff him inside and seal the opening. Let him spend those final days in darkness with just a taste of the fear felt by those he killed.
The Bush Administration was smart to point out that this will not mean an end to attacks on coalition troops. Last week Saddam's opponents were reluctant to talk to the media for fear of retaliation should Saddam ever return to power. Today it is Saddam supporters who won't give their last names to the media. They know the game is up ... and they now fear the people they have betrayed over the past year. Saddam's henchmen know now that Iraqis will be far more willing, even eager, to turn in those who are still conducting attacks against coalition forces.
The civilized treatment Hussein receives at the hands of American troops will fuel in Saddam a newfound courage. Judging from the way he meekly surrendered you might think that he would have spilled his guts if the proper pressure were brought to bear. He plays the game that way, we don't. I wonder if he will have any conscious awareness of the fact that he is getting much better treatment at the hands of the United States than his opponents got when he ruled Iraq.
In the short term ... look for an increase in attacks against coalition forces. These attacks will be the last, desperate acts of fanatics who know that all reasonable hope is gone. In the long run ... A boot has been lifted off the necks of the Iraqi people. They need no longer fear the retributions that would come with a return of Saddam Hussein. Rank and file Iraqis will want to see the a new Iraq grow out of peace and stability, and to that end they will become more and more willing to turn in their countrymen who seek to promote chaos and disorder.
Today should be interesting ... stay tuned.
AND WHAT ARE RANK AND FILE DEMOCRATS SAYING?
A listener visited Democraticunderground.com yesterday and copied down some of the comments being made. I thank him for providing them, and present them here for your "enjoyment" and disgust:
- To me, it's obvious that Bush is far more dangerous than Saddam Hussein, especially if he has another four years to destroy my country by trying to transform the republic into an empire.
- The benefits of capturing Saddam seem vastly outweighed by the increased danger posed by Bush insofar as Bush's reelection chances are enhanced by the capture.
- In my view, what is good for GW Bush politically is almost necessarily bad for America and the world.
I also think that it is absurd to allow one's feelings for the troops -- who voluntarily chose to join America's hyper-aggressive war-machine -- to determine one's analysis of policy. - The timing of this thing just seems way too convenient. Bush, down in the polls - having to face questions not just about the war but also about the economy and our international standing. Dean, riding high, starting to attract the NASCAR dads the media thinks are the key to this election. Even Bush's media events are torn to pieces as the shams they are.
- Then suddenly, we *find* Sadaam Hussein. Trot him out as a spectacle for the Roman masses, throw his generals to the lions and look into the corner to see if Emperor Georgie gives him a thumbs up or thumbs down....
- If you have any respect for international law, you'd be against Saddam's capture. He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it.
- If you're happy about his capture...you are pretty much happy that we had the war (we wouldn't have captured him otherwise).
- There is NO good from this war...only suffering.
- Bush could cure cancer and I'd still hate him.
- The Iraqi people had to live under Husseine and now they are worse off with Bush. I'm sorry for the American people who have to live under Bush. I'm pissed.
Thoughts from Democrats, my friends. . Hard to believe, I know, but you can enjoy these wonderful Americans at your own leisure simply by visiting Democraticunderground.com on the Internet.
Read the rest
TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boortz; saddamcapture; viceisclosed
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:56:05 AM PST
by
Crazieman
To: Crazieman
Some Dim:
Bush could cure cancer and I'd still hate him.That pretty much sums it up - it doesn't matter what W does or does not do - they hate him more that they hate Sadaam, who killed MILLIONS of his own people.
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posted on
12/15/2003 5:24:27 AM PST
by
4CJ
('Scots vie 4 tavern juices' - anagram by paulklenk, 22 Nov 2003)
To: 4ConservativeJustices
I thought this one was a more shocking comment:
If you have any respect for international law, you'd be against Saddam's capture. He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it.
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posted on
12/15/2003 5:29:04 AM PST
by
Crazieman
To: Crazieman
The benefits of capturing Saddam seem vastly outweighed by the increased danger posed by Bush insofar as Bush's reelection chances are enhanced by the capture.It's hard to believe that this is a DU poster, admitting that Dubya was elected. Probably a troll that was banned immediately after this remark.
To: Crazieman
I have only one thing to say about the above list....
Not one person there has ever suffered in any way, shape or form...period...
(Granted, probably to them, going without a hot shower one day is suffering).
Talk about vapid and shallow!
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posted on
12/15/2003 5:34:01 AM PST
by
najida
(Nope, this isn't breaking news either. Come back after dinner.)
To: Crazieman
Have you poor folks been trying to register at democraticunderground.com.? The registration has been suspended. I think someone may be getting freeped. The pain they must be suffering, hearing another side of the story. Keep up the good work.
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posted on
12/15/2003 5:35:15 AM PST
by
em2vn
To: em2vn
I managed to amass over 200 posts at DU until they finally banned me.
It's simple because they're simple.
I got by asking the board "what are we going to do about this" then posting bad news for the liberal or words
along that line for several months.
I finally lost my cool and the moderators zapped me.
7
posted on
12/15/2003 5:44:18 AM PST
by
dwilli
To: Crazieman
bump
8
posted on
12/15/2003 6:24:13 AM PST
by
jonno
To: jonno
Neal added a new poll to his site under Nealz Nuze. Who was Saddam mistaken for when he was pulled out of his rathole?
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:06:05 AM PST
by
Crazieman
To: Crazieman
you'd be against Saddam's capture. He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it.This same person believes that George Bush is sooo evil for giving 'tax-cuts to the rich', that he should be removed from office?
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:12:38 AM PST
by
StriperSniper
(Sending the Ba'thist to the showers! ;-)
To: Crazieman
"The timing of this thing just seems way too convenient. Bush, down in the polls - having to face questions not just about the war but also about the economy and our international standing. Dean, riding high, starting to attract the NASCAR dads the media thinks are the key to this election. Even Bush's media events are torn to pieces as the shams they are."
The insanity required to write this text is astounding. Totally deranged. I really liked the part about Dean starting to attract NASCAR Dads. Yup and George Bush is getting an endorsement from Ed Assner.
11
posted on
12/15/2003 7:21:35 AM PST
by
faithincowboys
( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not commiting treason.)
To: Crazieman
One DU poster posted this:
![](http://www.cassiopaea.org/images/saddam_contrast.jpg
)
"At left: Saddam Hussein? At right: one of Saddam's many alleged body doubles? Consider the eyebrows: In the man on the left the right eyebrow appers to slant upwards, on the man on the right the right eyebrow slants downwards. The moustache: darker on the man on the left than on the man on the right? The ears: a definite bow in the middle of the ears of the man on the left. While in the man on the right the ear is partially obscured there is perhaps enough visible to see that the bow in the middle is absent?"
The problem is, the idiot poster wasn't smart enough to realize that the picture on the left was taken right after Saddam was shaved, shortly after the picture on the right was taken. Look at the background. You can even see the same scab over his left eyebrow. What a hoot.
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posted on
12/15/2003 8:53:37 AM PST
by
Jaxter
("When they come for your guns, give 'em your ammo first.")
To: Crazieman
Rush just read Boortz's DU quoted verbatim, and claimed that he [Rush] had found them himself.
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posted on
12/15/2003 10:40:27 AM PST
by
snopercod
(The federal government will spend $21,000 per household in 2003, up from $16,000 in 1999.)
To: snopercod
quoted=quotes
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posted on
12/15/2003 10:40:52 AM PST
by
snopercod
(The federal government will spend $21,000 per household in 2003, up from $16,000 in 1999.)
To: Crazieman
"If you have any respect for international law, you'd be against Saddam's capture. He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it."And yet, Milosovich was somehow worth the effort according to these folks.
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posted on
12/15/2003 10:51:39 AM PST
by
meyer
To: Crazieman
"... against Saddam's capture. He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it."
The best...
To: alaskanfan
The fun I have with the liberalnazi's I run into (my sister-in-law for one) that rant about Bush and how he was not legitimately elected...... "So, could we be looking at 8 more years then, since he wasn't elected? If 2004 would be his first election win, then couldn't he run again in 2008. Wow. 12 years of Bush.... Great." She turns pale and runs.
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posted on
12/15/2003 10:59:21 AM PST
by
spacewarp
(Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
To: Crazieman
"There is no good from this war, only suffering."
I'd like to ask the folks at DU if they think the American Civil War was morally justified. After all, it had exponentially more casualties than the Iraq war.
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posted on
12/15/2003 1:17:44 PM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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