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1 posted on 12/13/2003 6:29:18 PM PST by ambrose
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To: TheAngryClam; ElkGroveDan
ping!
2 posted on 12/13/2003 6:29:39 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Only two Republican senators voted for the compromise.

I was surprised the senate Repbulicans held their ground. I was not surprised a Hollywood liberal try to shove it down their throats.

3 posted on 12/13/2003 6:37:28 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: ambrose
Stay away from CA in the next few years...
4 posted on 12/13/2003 6:38:00 PM PST by 2banana
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To: ambrose
The Terminator seems to have been taken to the cleaners!
5 posted on 12/13/2003 6:45:36 PM PST by expatpat
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To: ambrose
I'm voting NO on the bonds. Without the spending caps the RATS will be selling bonds every year to pay the deficit. Sorry Arnie, you blew it !
6 posted on 12/13/2003 6:51:33 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: ambrose
There is no instant gratification to be had in all this mess. Nobody likes the thought of fiscal restraints or being strapped with an oppressive Budget situation. The party is over guys & dolls. The Valley Girl existence has now got to be paid for. Many cannot fathom the depth of what has now got to be provided for. For some the cure is too much to manage or be concerned with. Pure and simple the Conservative image every liberal hates has finally positioned itself squarely in your face. This is a pay out plan that will hurt everyone equally. You all bought into the game and have now got "left" holding the bag. If you have to TATTOO this on your foreheads do it. "You Accumulate By Not Spending" Rome was not built in a day and this problem won't go away tomorrow; now the Barbarian Bill Collectors are hammering at your Gates!
7 posted on 12/13/2003 6:52:35 PM PST by winker
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To: FairOpinion; ambrose; All
To everyone who said that Arnold was a "fiscal conservative," and that the GOP was solidly behind him, and that this deal was an Arnold victory, I have the following questions for you:

How is it that Arnold could only get two GOP senators to support this bill, when many more than that endorsed him in the election?

How can you consider this anything other than John Burton and the Senate Democrats bending Arnold over the negotiating table and having their way with him?

How can you call something supported almost wholly by the people responsible for the California budget debacle "fiscally conservative?"

and, finally, how do you sleep at night after the litany of BS you spew every day in support of frauds like Arnold Schwarzenegger?
8 posted on 12/13/2003 7:01:17 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: ambrose
I wonder if Dan Weintraub was scratching his head over the Gray Davis budgets? I'm not a Californian so I probably shouldn't say anything, but just the fact that Schwarzenegger was able to get anything out of State Assembly dominated by the RATS is a good start. I'm no Arnold fan, and if I was a resident of California, I would have voted for McClintock. But before this guy Dan Weintraub starts ridiculing Arnold's budget, I want to know where he was when Davis was plowing through the state's treasury like tractor trailer sized Hoover Vacuum and emptying it's contents at the feet of every special interest group that would guarantee their votes in the next election.
9 posted on 12/13/2003 7:05:58 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: ambrose
Arnold's Budget Deal Sealed with Stories, Cigars
"Wesson said he and the governor... would occasionally retreat to Schwarzenegger's private, inner office to work out key disputes. Most of the time, Wesson said, the two would return with a compromise deal."

Oh man, and here I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about our self sacrificing public servants. Way to rain on our parade, Weintraub.

Now I've got to recapture that feeling. Where did I see that recipe for Tom and Jerry's?

13 posted on 12/13/2003 7:18:43 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: ambrose
I continue to wonder if any of this stuff matters in the long run because the well is dry and Arnold and the Republicans will never let the scumbag Democrats raise taxes, not in a million years. Arnold promised.
17 posted on 12/13/2003 7:52:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ambrose
foreigners buying up America
21 posted on 12/13/2003 8:39:29 PM PST by ask
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To: ambrose
The voters of Caulifawnia gave Arnold a great new secret weapon to take to Sac but Arnie loaded it with blanks. I am embarrassed even though I voted for McClintock...
31 posted on 12/13/2003 9:26:35 PM PST by tubebender (We've been married 47 years and she still doesn't put the toilet seat up for me...)
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To: ambrose
Now we need to get a referendum on the November '04 ballot -- when all the conservatives will be turning out anyway, more so than in March -- to correct the shortcomings that Weintraub so commendably cites!
32 posted on 12/13/2003 9:34:48 PM PST by pogo101
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To: ambrose
Unfathomable to me is Schwarzenegger's promise to not even support a citizen initiative to impose a spending cap. He really wimped out on that one. His weakness means we the people will just have to take the state back one initiative at a time, and without his help.
41 posted on 12/14/2003 9:10:07 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: ambrose
Why is anyone suprised? He's Demoncrat in drag.
43 posted on 12/14/2003 10:07:57 AM PST by nmh
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