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To: Vigilanteman
I found the article very interesting also. I particularly like the format. Although I largely do not agree with the professor on many things, this is a very useful article for discussion purposes.

I think a lot of people talk of China but (as always) get divided up into camps, but don't talk about the facts.

Economically some describe China's economy as "good" or "bad" or "small" or "big"...but none of those are qualifiable measures. What one considers "good" is merely subjective, thus adding to the division amongst camps regarding China.

Of those 4 camps he mentioned, I am probably 40% in the second camp, 25% of the first and third camp, and 10% the last. I would be a pie chart of all of the above, not one or the other.

The only way we will end up with the last one is if we REALLY push them on it and seriously require it of them. It won't happen any time soon though.

6 posted on 12/13/2003 7:26:35 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
If the attitude of transnational corporations doesn't change with respect to China, foreigners will make the third scenario a reality under the illusion that they're promoting the fourth. The main thing to watch for the next few years is how much if at all the world's TNCs shift their pro-China tendencies. That'll determine how long China can keep growing without truly reforming.
8 posted on 12/13/2003 10:16:55 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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