Denying Islam's History [Democracy for the Middle East]

broadscapeventures.com ^ | December 10, 2002 07:08 AM | Andrew Bostom, M.D.,

[Travis McGee]

Stating that all islam is not at war with the West is as foolish and meaningless as stating that in 1943 all Germans were not at war with us. "Only that tiny minority wearing gray or black uniforms." So what? The Nazis were enough, and to defeat the Nazis we had to crush Germany. So it is today with Islam. We are in the early rounds of a very long fight.

[RLK]

We are in the early rounds of a very long fight.

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How right you are. And the fight for survival is going on in about 20 different nations. We'd better quit playing around, support the resistance in those nations, and make a unified front or we're done.

[Travis McGee]

Sooner or later, we're going to lose a city or three, and then we're going to have to excise the source of Mad Mo's mean mojo, the mecca moon-god rock. That's where I see one of the final rounds.

[squidly]

Do you watch the news presentations of continuing anti-American demonstrations or anything.

As I said, all turban and no jihad. They're real good at hoopin' and hollerin' in the street, but that's about all they're real good at.

[squidly]

Stating that all islam is not at war with the West is as foolish and meaningless as stating that in 1943 all Germans were not at war with us.

That's a horrendous analogy. Germany mobilized 20 million troops and fought to the death on all fronts.

[LibWhacker]

We are in the early rounds of a very long fight.

Yep, and it's going to be made all the longer and more costly by non-muslims who will not abandon the inane PC crap and face facts.

[Mortimer Snavely]

From The American Conservative article dated 15 DEC 03, "Christendom, Awake"

"Monsignor Bernardini recounted a conversation he had with a Muslim leader who said to him, 'Thanks to your democratic laws, we will invade you. Thanks to your religious laws, we will dominate you.'

In London, Sheikh Omar Bakri openly declared his intention to transform the West into Dar Al-Islam and to establish the Sharia on British soil....." and so on.

This is a life or death struggle. No quarter can be given. Muslims who want to live in free societies will tell you that. There is no compromise with Islamists.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Yes, I do make a distinction between Muslims and Islamists, to wit: Islamists tend to kill Muslims for the most trivial of reasons.

[squidly]

I think it's safe to say you're both missing my point, which is that the vast majority of these Muslim "enemies" aren't willing to fight. If they were, they would already be doing so. Enemies is in quotes because they aren't worthy of the title. They have a few martyrs and terrorist riff-raff whom they place on pedestals, ergo we are forced to take the action we have taken, and that we will continue to take. They're great at raising a ruckus in the street and bitching about the Great Satan, but when it comes down to crunch time, the vast majority of them have submitted and will submit, just like their poster-boy Saddam when he crawled out of his hole. Both times we have been to war with Iraq, their military was more interested in running away than fighting. This is a reflection on their people and on their culture. They have neither the conviction nor the will, only empty gestures and hollow slogans. They are weak and cowardly. All turban, no jihad.

[RLK]

I think it's safe to say you're both missing my pointp> -----------------

What you are trying to say is the problem is us instead of you. I haven't missed anything.

[Travis McGee]

Really? Are you less dead because "only" 100 million or so out of a billion Muslims want to see us converted or killed?

[Travis McGee]

Naivete is not a virtue squid.

[squidly]

Are you less dead because "only" 100 million or so out of a billion Muslims want to see us converted or killed?

100 million? Where? There might be 100 million willing to say bad things about us, but there sure aren't 100 million who are willing to fight. It would be a very different war if there were.