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To: jonathanleebrown
CNN reports what they want to report. They made it seem that Bush lost the popular election, but that is not the case. There were uncounted votes in the Florida panhandle, which would have allowed Bush to win the popular vote. Unfortunately, the Dems like to leave that bit of information out. If you are trying to forge an political identity, I would advise you to steer clear of CNN and other democratic information engines if you want to understand politics. I would recommend NewsMax and Fox News channel for a better take.
The problem that you notice with inter-party squabbling results from democratic childishness. They have no original points, but they feel a continued need to bash the Republicans.
Also, your ideas for government are utopian, and will never work. Peace between the faction is a nice dream, but will never happen. And we are not ruled by a single body, we are governed by three branches of government, largely elected by the populus.
Unfortunately, what you know so far from liberal outlets is skewed and flawed.

If you feel that you disagree with these points, Democratic Underground is a great socialist haven. But first reevaluate your position and seek the truth. The truth lies in the Republican party.
80 posted on 12/13/2003 3:02:53 PM PST by Mich0127
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To: Mich0127
jmstein7, Mich0127; to both of you, very good points!

I have heard arguments both ways, though oddly enough I could not find 2000 results on foxnews.com nor newsmax.com. ABC had them available, would you recommend them mich0127? Hmmm, I tend to not watch (TV, net, etc.) the news because I cannot stand the endless negativity (political and otherwise). I am trying to talk to people such as those here on freerepublic.com because you are the people, you are the ones that really count. Not career politicians, not the media. I would love to hear what the Dems are complaining about and how they are not valid or are not offering feasible alternatives. (is there a way to spin this off to a new thread?) I have to say that some of what little I “know” (or rather have heard) does concern me. For instance the issues with the 9/11 commission. It appears that parts of the government are not speeding this along as they ought to be. I am of the opinion that there is very little that the white house can justify not sharing with the commission (or committee?) There are people not willing to prove that the pres hasn’t lied about certain aspects of the situation and that concerns me. In fact it makes me mad (In the same way that Clinton’s lies about all of those scandals incited near rage).

Utopian is every good word for… hmmm… what I view as an ideal direction for government. And indeed I agree that they are likely not possible in this world. But we are obligated to strive for whatever our ideals are. If we don’t work to better our world, what are we fighting for? (Good point about the not being ruled by a single body, I did not mean to imply this, sorry about the inaccurate info.)

I try to avoid any particularly liberal or conservative bias at this point, mainly by trying to listen and understand both points of view; in what context are they are right (or at least valid), when they are wrong etc. Furthermore, I think this is (one of) the best possible places to post and discuss. I want to learn and contribute (if possible) to the betterment of my world. (“my world” being pretty subjective.) I think that the people here tend to contribute reasoned posts, less inflammatory than many other sites. And I really want to talk with these people. Regarding the truth; I think that it is all perspective, the old blind-men/elephant proverb. I think all (well many) perspectives have some validity to them.

“the Constitution -- as a device, it intentionally makes it difficult to get anything done”,
jmstein7, this is an insightful perspective you have here, I never thought of our government being setup to purposefully slow decision making. That is rather ingenious and goes to show that even if there are problems (and what system is perfect?) that there is a lot of potential left in our system.
99 posted on 12/13/2003 4:57:22 PM PST by jonathanleebrown
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