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To: joesbucks
Think and Grow Rich - by Napoleon Hill has some very good sections on autosuggestion - ie your subconscious is a willing slave - if you tell it to be happy it will be - end of story, no questions asked.

This ties in with your bit about the Judeo-Christian faith - if your subconscious believes you are going to heaven then it's probably very difficult to be unhappy.

7 posted on 12/13/2003 6:17:36 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
if you tell it to be happy it will be.

We've been discussing that. But in a different context. The company I work for made it's budget for the year. It was very aggressive. Fact of the matter is, there would be virtually no way for us to make the sales and profit numbers that were suggested or even come close. Just a few weeks ago, the president of the company made a state of the state speech. The results were worse than I expected. He said and I quote "I must have been smoking something when I pushed for and agreed to those numbers. However going into 2004, I am being asked to agree to even more agressive numbers." A twist on your "if you believe you'll be happy, then you will be"? Most of us walked away from that meeting feeling rudderless at best and guilty because we let so many people down on a plan that was doomed from the beginning.

Maybe my problem is that I tend to deal in reality. I don't believe I'm a pessimist, yet I'm certainly not an optomist.

I will agree that a hopeful outcome is more comforting than a doubtful one. Yet it must also be real. In addition, where I once believed that depression/despair was a character trait, it now appears to be something more than an attitude toward life.

11 posted on 12/13/2003 6:29:34 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
This man's teachings changed my life and If You Let It (i.e. you truly WANT to NOT be a victim of depression), they will change yours: http://www.3percentclub.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=481

He has studied all the "greats" of achievment, and has a way of presenting the ideas that is very accessible. If you look into it with an open mind, without preconceptions or prejudices (about "sales"), you will find a wealth of HELP.

When I first watched his videos, my jaw was literally hitting the floor, because of the simple, clear truths about HOW OUR MINDS WORK, that he presents.

And don't be afraid: I am a Christian, and using our minds to improve our lives IS NOT the work of the devil (excuse-makers like my parents tried to tell me that!)

You can USE YOUR OWN MIND to change yourself. Better and more dependable than drugs, but you have to give up your Excuses, and your dependence on Experts, and take responsibility for Yourself.

I post this for those who it will help (you are your own best ally); not for those who it will offend (you are your own worst enemy).
434 posted on 12/13/2003 2:13:42 PM PST by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
your subconscious is a willing slave - if you tell it to be happy it will be - end of story, no questions asked.

Can I tell my brain to produce more serotonin? Please reconsider what you think you know about depression before someone close to you falls prey to it.

435 posted on 12/13/2003 2:14:50 PM PST by stands2reason (What good does it do you to win a debate in an insane asylum?)
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
You're kidding, right? Depression has nothing to do with what you tell your subconscious. It is caused by a chemical imbalance. If all it took to cure depression was little pep talk to your subconscious, don't you think people would cure themselves of this horrible condition?
461 posted on 12/13/2003 2:46:36 PM PST by CalKat
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