[VadeRetro]

Surprised this thread didn't generate more heat from a certain crowd. Cognitive dissonance?

[PatrickHenry]

The hard-core crazies are mostly banned, and presumably live a cyber-life of spiritual paridise at another website. I think it was mostly one of them who used to ping the others. So now it's just hit-or-miss as to whether the average creos stumble into a good thread.