[Paul C. Jesup]

American Spirit could you please explain this to Luis, I have tried for the last 75 posts and it is like talking to a brick wall.

[american spirit]

After debating this subject for years with various folks who are most passionate about this whole issue I've come to the conclusion that sometimes the veracity of someone's passion can conflict with their objectivity. This is probably the case for me, you and perhaps Luis and others.....can't say for sure. One thing I am sure of is that if this issue is not dealt with, we'll see upheaval of some sort and eventually this country will be no more....it'll turn into just another UN designated free trade zone with no borders, no US Constitution and any rights we think we ever had will be gone.