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To: GraniteStateConservative
I can't speak for the other regions but Sullivan has done obviously shoddy research in his graphics presentation of El Norte.

50% of the land area he demonstrates in California is probably the most gentrified area in the state and has limited diversity. Starting from Oxnard northward, with the exception of Oxnard/Ventura on the south, King City/Salinas in the middle and San Jose in the north, the majorty of the area is populated by substantial wealth, mainly liberal to moderate and almost exclusively anglo.

The second highest percapita concentration of Hispanics in the US, behind the LA Basin, is located in the San Joaquin Valley, a substantial land area, which the author places in the Sagebrush.

This old boy paints whith a broad and loose brush in the West. Are the other areas as inaccurate as well?

24 posted on 12/11/2003 7:14:42 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
I live in the San Joaquin Valley. Please chack the Red/Blue county-by county map in post #13--every county in the San Joaquin Valley went for Bush II in 2000.

Many Hispanics around here are conservative.
28 posted on 12/11/2003 7:36:47 PM PST by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: Amerigomag
This old boy paints whith a broad and loose brush in the West. Are the other areas as inaccurate as well?

Yes.

38 posted on 12/11/2003 8:46:07 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Amerigomag
Actually Hispanics do the heavy lifting in the areas of California you mention. The place is simply too expensive to be very attractive to low wage earning Anglos performing such tasks, and they have decamped by and large. There is a significant Hispanic percentage through out, but they have a limited impact on the political dynamics.
39 posted on 12/11/2003 8:52:35 PM PST by Torie
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