Consort wrote:I think you are the one who has this backwards.
When the GOP wins, Conservatives have a chance to do their thing. When the GOP loses, Conservatives lose — big time.
As just one example, when the Republicans ran on the "Contract with America" in 1994, they won control of both houses of Congress. They didn't implement all of the contract (actually, they hardly implemented any of the contract).
Consort wrote:I don't think so. I think we need to insist on movement in a conservative direction. If we don't, we will be as neglected as blacks have been by the Democrats, and that's not an option for me. And compromise that doesn't advance our agenda as much is acceptable. Compromise that advances the liberal agenda should be avoided if at all possible, and should only happen very rarely in exchange for advancing a bigger part of the conservative agenda.
We can look for things to do, but a "Do it my way or I'll screw all the Republicans" dog-in-the-manger mentality is not the answer, IMO. It would only show that the Necro-Conservative death wish is still alive and well.
You didn't say how I got it backwards. Try again.
As just one example, when the Republicans ran on the "Contract with America" in 1994, they won control of both houses of Congress. They didn't implement all of the contract (actually, they hardly implemented any of the contract).
Like I said, when the GOP wins, conservatives get a chance to implement their agenda. They had a chance to implement some, or all of the Contract with America (and they did pass a chunk of it). If the GOP had lost, then none, zero, nada, zip of the Contract would have been passed. The Dems would have passed their agenda, instead. The conservatives would have lost big time.........just like I said.
I think we need to insist on movement in a conservative direction.
Good. But my comment had to do with what weird things conservatives might do if they don't get everything they want or as much as they think they should get.
GACK! Anti-Republican propoganda... The House passed 9 out of 10 items in the contract with America. Newt kept the promise to change the House rules on the first day - they did. Some of the items died in the senate (as do some conservative stuff today, but that's the senate rules for ya, they helped us slow down stuff in 1993-1994 too).
They passed tax items, welfare items etc. Most of the contract with America *did* eventually make it into law.
I think we need to insist on movement in a conservative direction. okay, but ... What were those large tax cuts and the PBA ban and the aggressive move to fight terrorism and expand freedom by deposing saddam hussein? chopped liver?