The March of Folly (Supremes trash 1st Amend.)

Wall Street Journal ^ | Dec 11, 2003 | editorial

[Paul C. Jesup]

I am not being sarcastic, see post 6 of this thread.

[David Isaac]

"Justices Breyer and Ginsburg are Clinton's legacy"


Yes, but O'Connor is Reagan's and Souter is Bush Sr.'s. I believe that Reagan may have been mislead by certain advisers, as was Eisenhower. But I cannot extend the same "excuse" to Bush Sr. and am not too sure that I have any reason to believe that W. in his second term, will do any better than his father.

[Dane]

Yes, but O'Connor is Reagan's and Souter is Bush Sr.'s. I believe that Reagan may have been mislead by certain advisers, as was Eisenhower. But I cannot extend the same "excuse" to Bush Sr. and am not too sure that I have any reason to believe that W. in his second term, will do any better than his father.

Oh give me a break. Souter was recommended by Warren Rudman and Bush then appointed his Scalia, Clarence Thomas.

Any other justices Bush 41 may have appointed is speculation since Clinton got to appoint Ginsburg and Breyer.

[Sir Gawain]

You claim to be a conservative while giving someone a pass when they fail to uphold their oath of office.

[Dane]

You claim to be a conservative while giving someone a pass when they fail to uphold their oath of office.

Tar and feather me oh great conservative one for having an opinion and looking at facts, the political enviroment, and recent election history.

[putupon]

the 'read my lips' event for Bush Jr.

15 bil for African Dictators
Federalizing Airport Screening deadbeats
Open borders
Steel tariffs
Socialized Medicine
Kennedy/Bush education boondoogle
16% increase in Fed Budget

Daddy Bush's lips were only a short story, Junior's writing a trilogy.

Merry Christmas Holidays,
Suckers

[David Isaac]

I am looking at the 5-4 split (again). After Souter was appointed (why would Sr. have to bow to Rudman's wishes), the appointment of Thomas and Scalia was moot, and possibly political cover. It still leaves things in the hands of the winner of the '04 election and so far, I've not seen any candidate that inspires great hope. Though, when it comes down to it, I will hold my nose and vote for Bush, as I did in 2000 and did for Dole in '96.

[Dane]

After Souter was appointed (why would Sr. have to bow to Rudman's wishes)

So using your reasoning, Reagan also bowed to somebody's wishes in appointing O'Connor.

Whatever your conspiracy machinations, the point still stands that Bill Clinton got to appoint two Justices.

[David Isaac]

If Republicans appointed conservatives, it would not matter who Clinton appointed.

To which party do the terms "political expediency" and "moral relativism" apply?

[Paul C. Jesup]

As they say; Politics is not a pretty thing to behold.

[Dane]

To which party do the terms "political expediency" and "moral relativism" apply?

Actually all successful political parties are going to have some political expiediency, since I don't know of one political party that gets 100% of a vote in a free election.

As for moral relativism, the demos by a wide margin.

[David Isaac]

There are many who do not see the margin as being that wide. That would include the 18% of voters in '92 who could not vote for Sr., even holding their nose.

[SevenDaysInMay]

We the People must stop accepting agenda driven judicial fiat rulings without lawful basis defined under our ratified Constitution. this ratified Constitution is THE LAWof OUR LAND, not what the SCOTUS may contrive. This most recent appalling, mocking ruling is in direct violation of the limits of federal government's powers, "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech...".

This law is null and void on its face. Dead on arrival. This SCOTUS ruling is an insult to all Americans, living and dead. Money can corrupt only the corrupt people. The potential to corrupt and ?harm? incumbants during the final 30/60 days of an election so violate our 1st Amendment? What a pathetic violation.

What stare decisis? Bad law relying on proposterous, serial, flagrant violations of our Ratified Constitution's limits on the powers granted to the federal government upon its creation by the several states representing We the People. Stare decisis using international and EU law? Enemies of our Constitution by their own words.

These temporary employees of ours must face impeachment and removal from office. Congressmen and presidents must be defeated over their mocking violations of their oath of office. Nothing less. Much more. Such abuse of power in self-interest deserves much more. Shame and abuse, and no libaries named for them.

G.W. Bush has proven as president to be a socialist, willing to violate our Constitution (even before War Emergency Powers' executive orders are used to declare marshal law over us, but by some other softened nomclature), signing this "campaign finance law" under cover of night - in direct violation of his campaign promise. Members of Congress, G.W., and the SCOTUS again violated their oath of office and X-43's military oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic.

5 members of our SCOTUS are domestic enemies of our RATIFIED Constitution. They can and do usurp power, but they cannot amend our RATIFIED Constitution - from the bench. They keep acting like it only so long as we the People allow it.

That debate time is over. This SCOTUS repeatedly cites international law as directing their rulings overturning our very civil rights. Enumerating personal liberties such as "privacy" is one thing; telling us the words of our Bill of Rights and 14th Amendment don't mean what the Amendments actually proclaim so clearly is sedition.

Because this SCOTUS 5 with the Legislative majority and President all acted to violate our 1st Amendment of our Bill of Rights, We the People must fight to re-establish our Rule of Law pursuant to the only basis of our soveriegn nation's law, our RATIFIED CONSTITUTION.

[joesnuffy]

Someone said yesterday...its no big deal..as such laws are never really enforced...just a small fine at the max...

But the genie is out of the bottle..much like RICO that was passed to do away with organized crime...ended up in the hands of Clinton and used to prosecute the Pro-life movement while doing nothing to stem the tide of real organized crime...gang bangers...major drug dealers...etc etc etc..

There are many little Clinton-esque wannabes waiting in the wings...how will they use this law to extend their personalities upon the American people..

Dems and liberal activist judges are running us off the cliff at 100mph and the Pubbies at 43 mph

Welcome to the NWO

[verity]

You forgot to include the details of your plan!

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

They can and they will.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

It was the illustrious Ken Starr, wholly owned subsidiary of Li Kashing's Hutchinson-Wampoa Company ltd, that talked Reagan into O' Commie.