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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
What ideals does Bush espouse that cause you to support him?

Let me give you a little advice. It's the best kind, because it comes from a fat, dead, alcoholic comedian.

I never vote for anyone; I always vote against.
W. C. Fields

You can fool yourself into thinking that you're always supporting a candidate, but in 99%+ of the cases, you're simply picking the guy who's not as bad as the other.

Clearly, our system sucks. Its faults are summed up best in the words of a fat, dead, alcoholic politician.

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Sir Winston Churchill

So, if you have a better idea that doesn't involve letting the bad guys win easily while we fall on our swords and declare moral victory, I'm all ears. If not, I'll continue to uphold the pillars of dead, fat, alcoholic wisdom.

199 posted on 12/11/2003 9:53:14 PM PST by Steel Wolf (There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Good post Wolf!

I am about fed up with these idiots. I am slightly ryled up right now and lucky for them I am out of their immediate reach.

There have been fewer Presidents better that Mr. Bush. (Who I still refer to as "SIR") Particularly under the current conditions and circumstances.

These "Arm Chair Quarterbacks" are quick to condemn him for just about everything. It is obvious that they know very little about his true nature but they are quick to point out his failures for things they know very little about.

Can anyone imagine what this country would be like with a Democrat (Howard Dean) in office? Especially with all the coming vacancies on the Supreme Court after 2005? The list is too upsetting to even continue.....

I simply say this; UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!

203 posted on 12/11/2003 10:13:30 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Libertarians are LOOOOOOSERS!)
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To: Steel Wolf
How about having the guts to allow the Republicans to lose? Read the comments I made above to nopardons about the '92 and '94 elections and think back a decade to what happened with the Contract With America.

The problem since then has been that the GOP didn't follow through with the CWA, but too many voters have been afraid to withhold their votes from the R's because they are afraid of the D's, and so the R's have been allowed to slip ever more towards the center or even to the left of center. They are not afraid of what happened to Bush 41 happening to them, so they act in whatever manner pleases them rather than upholding the principles of the Repubican Party platform. If they did that, I would vote for them in a heartbeat. But they don't, so I won't.

It's not about claiming a moral victory. It's about convincing the politicians on the right that if they do not uphold the principles we sent them to Washington to fight for that we will let them lose the next election and replace them with someone else. It's about being willing to lose some battles in order to win the war.

205 posted on 12/11/2003 10:16:12 PM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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