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To: Flux Capacitor
I expect congressmen and senators to be idiots

Of course.... but that IS the Legislative Branch according to the Constitution.

Given the opposition that Bush has been trying to navigate regarding appointing judges, fighting terrorism, repairing the economy, etc, and given the fact that our so-called "majority" in the House and Senate are not solid ones, Bush cannot stomp all over Congress at will. As you pointed out, he has already gone out on risky limbs (ex. partial-birth abortion ban)... unfortunately for us, he is not a King that can constantly cater to only the small conservative percentage of the total electorate.

The way to prevent legislation such as this is to elect a right-leaning super-majority in Congress and educate the public about why a law such as this is harmful.

21 posted on 12/11/2003 9:54:31 AM PST by Tamzee (Pennsylvanians for Bush! Join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PA4BushCheney/)
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To: Tamsey
How in the world would exercising his constitutional veto power make Bush a "king"? Vetoing CFR would not have been catering to anything or anyone other than the black-and-white dictate of the First Amendment that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

Indeed, it was signing the bill that was in fact a nod to a small percentage of the electorate -- that tiny, tiny liberal percentage for which CFR was actually an issue.

-Dan
23 posted on 12/11/2003 10:13:45 AM PST by Flux Capacitor ('Cause WE.... GOT.... THE BOMBS. Ooooooo-KAY?!)
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To: Tamsey
Wrong, all Bush had to do was veto the CFR and it would have died.

But he doesn't even understand the word "veto". I bet he thinks it's a character in "The Godfather".
53 posted on 12/11/2003 11:09:58 PM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Tamsey
"Given the opposition that Bush has been trying to navigate regarding appointing judges, fighting terrorism, repairing the economy, etc, and given the fact that our so-called "majority" in the House and Senate are not solid ones, Bush cannot stomp all over Congress at will. As you pointed out, he has already gone out on risky limbs (ex. partial-birth abortion ban)... unfortunately for us, he is not a King that can constantly cater to only the small conservative percentage of the total electorate."

My God, when will you people stop justifying every transgression by George Bush? The damn bill was unconstitutional on it's face -- "Congress shall make NO law. . . ".

He should have strapped on some balls and reached for the veto pen. He violated his oath of office as much as the legislative idiots by signing this into law. There is NO excuse.

They should all be thrown out of office. Or worse.

115 posted on 12/14/2003 8:58:34 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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