[Jim Robinson]

Liberalism must be soundly rejected and defeated by the voters. I know of only one party with the numbers and organizational strength to do that.

[onemoreday]

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...Jim....

you say:
"........Liberalism must be soundly rejected and defeated by the voters. I know of only one party with the numbers and organizational strength to do that...."
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But they aren't doing it.

Also, by labelling ourselves as "voters," are we not limiting what Liberalism is to such a degree that it can never really be defeated? Are we still not merely "asking" government to limit itself?

Once the politician gets into power, it is not to his benefit to limit himself....and so he doesn't.

I am not trying merely to confuse the issues, here. I am saying that it might serve our purposes to try to more deeply state and thus implant in the people what these Conservative values are......once we are united as people in this regard, the government will truly be in our hands.

[gatorbait]

Liberalism must be soundly rejected and defeated by the voters. I know of only one party with the numbers and organizational strength to do that.

Jim, too right you are.However, the hard core,death before common sense ,my way or the highway "conservatives" lack the strategic vision to see this obvious fact. Much better to whine and carp from the margins while remaining pure and chaste ,than actually implementing conservative values patiently and steadily.